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Eugene

(61,910 posts)
Fri May 3, 2019, 10:55 PM May 2019

Florida passes bill creating hurdles to change constitution

Source: Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Republican lawmakers slipped language into a bill in the final hours of Florida’s legislative session Friday that could make it more difficult for citizens to change the constitution through petition drives.

Republicans have grumbled for years about having constitutional amendments passed through citizens’ petitions forced on them. Last year it was an amendment that restored voting rights for most felons once they’ve completed their sentences. In 2016 it was an amendment that legalized medical marijuana.

The bill now heading to Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis would require paid petition gatherers to register with the secretary of state, outlaw paying gatherers based on the number of signatures they collect and create fines if petitions aren’t turned in within 30 days. The petitions would also have the name and permanent address of the gatherer.

Democrats said that will discourage people from collecting petitions in an amendment process that’s already difficult. Republicans said it would help prevent fraud — a problem Democrats said doesn’t exist — and keep out-of-state interests from meddling with the Florida constitution.

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By BRENDAN FARRINGTON
29 minutes ago


Read more: https://apnews.com/de0189b5520143c4aacecd3bc817ed6b

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cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
1. To be honest I have no major issues with most of that though I do question the 30 days one
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:01 PM
May 2019

as does that mean the petitions only have 30 days to gather signatures? If so then that should be changed to 90 days.

LonePirate

(13,426 posts)
2. If voters were pushing Republican backed amendments, they would not try to curtail them.
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:33 PM
May 2019

I'd have to look up the history of Florida's amendment via ballot initiative process but I suspect it was enacted because Republicans did not have a strangle grip on Florida government so they used the initiative process to enact their whims. Now that voters are implementing Democratic-friendly initiatives, Republicans are pissed and want to change the process.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
4. If I am reading it correctly it would not actually stop anything and it looks more like
Sat May 4, 2019, 01:28 AM
May 2019

it will bring order to chaos.
The only area that might be questionable is the 30 day one but that's only if it's a limitation on the time a petition has to gather signatures as 30 days is simply to short imo.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
3. There were 13 frigging amendments
Fri May 3, 2019, 11:55 PM
May 2019

on the ballot in 2018. Several of them were redundant and meaningless but were still confusing to those who don't do their research. Often the amendments are purposely written in such a way that they seem to do the opposite of what they really do. There is a need for some curtailing of the madness.

Will have to check this out with the Tampa Bay Times.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
6. Thwarting the will of the people. The creation of a dictatorship in the making.
Sat May 4, 2019, 03:37 PM
May 2019

Throughout the country. Restrictions here, restrictions there. Always on the rank and file ordinary people. Never on the big corporations, the moneyed interests, the NRA, gun packers. The window of opportunities for advancement, increased station in life, running the govt, gets narrower and narrower.

J_William_Ryan

(1,755 posts)
7. Although Republicans control the state,
Sun May 5, 2019, 09:24 AM
May 2019

There is nonetheless a reservoir of progressivism that is expressed through amendment initiatives.

In 2016 it was medical marijuana; last year it was restoring the voting rights of felons – measures opposed by Republicans.

In essence, the people are ignoring the Republican dominated legislature and enacting progressive measures through the amendment process – that Republicans are seeking to make that more difficult should come as no surprise.

Byte606

(11 posts)
8. FL Legislature Repeals Citizens United in startling progressive move.
Sun May 5, 2019, 11:51 AM
May 2019

This bill would make it more difficult for paid petitioners to gather signatures, a penalty based solely on the attempt to use money to amplify political speech. Since Citizens United in part said money was equivalent to political speech, the FL legislature has nullified this concept. So, Florida becomes the first state to set the groundwork for real campaign finance reform! Unless this is just about fighting the spate of popular progressive petitions which are gaining steam this year including: a ban on assault weapons, a rise in the minimum wage, and Medicaid expansion?

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