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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 09:21 AM Jun 2019

CNN Poll: Democratic support for impeachment rises, Trump approval steady

Source: CNN



By Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Polling Director

Updated 8:18 AM ET, Sun June 2, 2019

Washington (CNN)Democrats are increasingly in support of impeaching President Donald Trump and removing him from office but the majority of Americans remain opposed to the prospect, a new CNN Poll conducted by SSRS shows.

Trump's approval rating, meanwhile, holds exactly even with where it was in late April -- 43% approve and 52% disapprove of the President, according to the poll. That's the case even as support for impeachment rose slightly from 37% last month to 41% now.

Similarly, those backing impeachment hit 43% in December, down from CNN's previous high mark of this question with 47% in September 2018. The new poll finds 54% are against impeachment.

The shift on impeachment stems mostly from a rebound in support for it among Democrats -- 76% favor it currently, up from 69% in April. Whites who hold college degrees have also increased their support for impeachment. In surveys in April and March, fewer than 3 in 10 in that group favored proceedings, but that number has now climbed to 41%.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/02/politics/trump-impeachment-mueller-testify-cnn-poll/index.html

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CNN Poll: Democratic support for impeachment rises, Trump approval steady (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2019 OP
Curb your enthusiasm, folks BeyondGeography Jun 2019 #1
Good one. SamKnause Jun 2019 #4
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2019 #2
43% approval of Trump is baffling. But there it is. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #3
No need to wait for a majority to support in order to open an inquiry Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #6
We don't know what would happen. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #7
By not impeaching he can claim that even the dems didn't think he colluded or obstructed. CrispyQ Jun 2019 #10
I think we probably should paper impeach. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #13
Approval equals strongly + somewhat DeminPennswoods Jun 2019 #14
Lets crank up the hearings ala Kevin McCarthy............ Historic NY Jun 2019 #5
Does anybody know how much power McConnell will have over impeachment proceedings in the Senate? world wide wally Jun 2019 #8
Can't remember where I read this srobertss Jun 2019 #12
History Will Not Treat His Supporters Kindly colsohlibgal Jun 2019 #9
If you support impeachment, call your rep! Senators, too! CrispyQ Jun 2019 #11

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. 43% approval of Trump is baffling. But there it is.
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:08 AM
Jun 2019

It used to be in the 30's a while back.

That's a disturbing number.

41% support impeachment. That's certainly not a majority, which I think is needed (or at least half).

Goes to show you. You do something that results in a few dollars more in the paycheck, and you get approval. No matter what crimes you do.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,657 posts)
6. No need to wait for a majority to support in order to open an inquiry
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:25 AM
Jun 2019

Relentless hearings will help move the needle before a floor vote on articles of impeachment occurs.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. We don't know what would happen.
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:27 AM
Jun 2019

It's time we accepted that we are in uncharted waters and do not know what will happen after we do anything, or not do anything.

To open an impeachment inquiry than fail to impeach gives Trump the "no collusion...no obstruction" finding by Congress.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
10. By not impeaching he can claim that even the dems didn't think he colluded or obstructed.
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:56 PM
Jun 2019

Also, in 2022, congressional repubs can run on "I would have voted to impeach but the dems didn't start an inquiry so I couldn't."

Not impeaching plays into the two narratives, one that the dems are weak, & two that there is no difference between the two parties.

You are right that we don't know what will happen. Impeaching & not convicting is also dangerous. But IMO, ignoring rule of law, House dems ignoring their oath to the Constitution, is more dangerous. I agree that timing is critical, but if they haven't started proceedings by fall, or decide not to impeach at all, I don't give this country very good odds of surviving Trump.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
13. I think we probably should paper impeach.
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 03:13 PM
Jun 2019

It can't go farther than paper, since the Senate won't impeach him. We do know that.

But some people are speculating that we'll WIN seats in Congress and the Presidential election if we impeach, while others predict it will cost us the election. My point is that it could go either way. It really could. An impeachment could realistically result in a Trump win and loss of the House in the next mid-terms. It also really could result in the opposite.

So those things aren't a reason we can use, since we just don't know.

One thing I gather that is worrying Pelosi, as she said on Jimmy Kimmel, is that the House paper-impeaches him, then the Senate doesn't. The Senate's action could be viewed as absolving him, which might mean he wouldn't be held criminally liable after he's out of office.

A lot of "ifs" in her concern. But I gather that is a big concern of hers. It looks like she's hoping for a criminal indictment after he's out of office, which will hopefully happen in 2020. (I could almost view that as passing the buck. Just like Mueller passed the buck.)

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
14. Approval equals strongly + somewhat
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jun 2019

Therefore, it's misleading. If the poll breaks the numbers out, look at strongly approve vs strongly disapprove instead.

Historic NY

(37,453 posts)
5. Lets crank up the hearings ala Kevin McCarthy............
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:17 AM
Jun 2019

and then see in a few months. Thats exactly what the fear. Its not the Senate conviction, its the hearings . In the in if they try to brush them aside its going to be awfully hard to say nothing happened.

world wide wally

(21,755 posts)
8. Does anybody know how much power McConnell will have over impeachment proceedings in the Senate?
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jun 2019

Is it a set and structured proceeding or does he get to play with the rules and pervert them?

srobertss

(261 posts)
12. Can't remember where I read this
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 02:42 PM
Jun 2019

but the language in the constitution is along the lines of “the Senate shall...” The writer was speculating that McConnell will take as many liberties as possible with the word “shall”. Which would throw it to the courts, going way beyond 2020. He’s shameless enough.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
9. History Will Not Treat His Supporters Kindly
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 11:21 AM
Jun 2019

Much like we wonder now why so many Germans supported Hitler so long.

This is a real period outside the norm here hope we go forward past this without too much damage.

If we do we have to take a serious look at leveling the playing field (Electoral College, make the Senate more equitable, paper ballots with foolproof counting).

As it is there is a pretty formidable deck stacked against us.

CrispyQ

(36,518 posts)
11. If you support impeachment, call your rep! Senators, too!
Sun Jun 2, 2019, 01:02 PM
Jun 2019

I thanked my rep for speaking out in support of impeachment. I encouraged my senator to do the same. And I told Madam Speaker my reasons why I support impeachment now. It's not just on Congress - it's on us, too. Voting is just the first part of being engaged. Contacting your reps is the second part.

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