Baron Baden-Powell, Knight of Malta and founder of the Boy Scouts

In 1937 Baden-Powell was appointed to the Order of Merit, one of the most exclusive awards in the British honours system, and he was also awarded 28 decorations by foreign states, including the Grand Officer of the Portuguese Order of Christ,[55] the Grand Commander of the Greek Order of the Redeemer (1920),[56] the Commander of the French Légion d'honneur (1925), the First Class of the Hungarian Order of Merit (1929), the Grand Cross of the Order of the Dannebrog of Denmark, the Grand Cross of the Order of the White Lion, the Grand Cross of the Order of the Phoenix, and the Order of Polonia Restituta.

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Tim Jeal, who wrote the biography Baden-Powell, argued that Baden-Powell's distrust of Communism led to his implicit support, through naïveté, of fascism. In 1939 Baden-Powell noted in his diary: "Lay up all day. Read Mein Kampf. A wonderful book, with good ideas on education, health, propaganda, organisation etc. – and ideals which Hitler does not practise himself."[7]:550 Baden-Powell admired Benito Mussolini early in the Italian fascist leader's career.

Some very early Scouting "Thanks" badges had a swastika symbol on them.[45] According to biographer Michael Rosenthal, Baden-Powell used the swastika because he was a Nazi sympathiser. Jeal, however, argues that Baden-Powell was ignorant of the symbol's growing association with Nazism and that he used the symbol for its centuries-old meaning of "good luck" in India. Also, Baden-Powell was named by the Nazis in "The Black Book of people to be arrested during the conquest of Great Britain. Scouting was regarded as a dangerous spy organisation by the Nazis.[46] Finally, when Nazi use of the swastika became well-known, the Scouts stopped using it.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Baden-Powell,_1st_Baron_Baden-Powell

the Lord will smile upon them.



Oh. Sorry. Wrong scout group - but is that Joe Ratzinger on the right?

Reality Sucks.

Just when I thought I knew it all.
I had to search the wiki list for mention of his homosexuality, too. It's there!

Too late.

Being in the Intelligence business, the Baron would have found many uses for little boys, especially when it came to co-opting persons of interest.

one female organization that has the same problem. You can't. Men are responsible for this. Men and male thinking in groups. Religion is just the smokescreen. So is the Boy Scouts. Men make this happen. They do this. Put the blame where it belongs: patriarchal male hierarchies.

Now, prove me wrong.

RV, who loves men, not asshats abusing their authority.

female teachers who have hit the headlines in the past two decades for preying on their young students, and many have gone to jail for it. One even persuaded the poor stupid kids to kill her husband up in NH.

It wasn't men acting as jailers and daily abusers of women who were sent to the Magdalene laundries--it was nuns who perpetrated that abuse and enthusiastically managed those hellholes.

I think anyone with a craven heart can do a bad thing, or maybe many bad things. I'm not going to get into "gender wars" because I don't think that solves or proves anything.

wars here. There are a few women who do this in teaching and they are assholes. I am just interested in how it seems that men in hierarchies seem to do this over and over and over again.

Women don't with notable exceptions. I agree with the craven heart. That is the first prequisite to this phenomenon. I am tired of male organizations doing this with almost no consequences. Maybe if there were this would be less likely to happen.

This is also not an indictment of men. I grew up with good men, am surrounded by good men and meet them everyday. There is something wrong with male hierarchical structures since this happens constantly. That is my observation. I agree with a lot of your points as well. I just don't know of women's organizations that fit the same behavior pattern. We have other things that are not too wondrous in our own groupings but this doesn't appear to be among them. IMO.

protect the members at the expense of everyone else. Deal with unsavory problems in-house rather that inviting in public scrutiny.

I don't think it's a religious failing so much as a typical corporate-mindset. Do you want to succeed in this organization? Are you a team-player or a trouble-maker?

Not.

I particularly like the notion that they changed their rules in 2010, to cover their ass before the shit hit the fan.

Guys seem to cover for each other in the Scouts, the Catholic Church, the military, police departments and perhaps that holds true in other male dominated clubs or societies too (Scull and Bones).
Is there some male psycology that causes men to defend or cover up for their fraternal brothers that is not so evident in female organizations?
I am just wondering here...
I am not a man hater, I love men, but it is a fact that you guys relate to each other much differently than women do. It is also a fact that men commit 90% or more of the crime...especially sex crimes. Throughout history men have been dangerous to women and children. I think there is a key learning here, but not sure what it is.
It would be interesting to hear from other Du-ers on this thread.

Shot his Son in the face with a .45 because he told his Dad that he hated him for working for the Agency. Th 'Boys' got him off because he was a loyal employee. The Judge ruled it Justifiable Homicide.

He invited us all over to his Home afterwords for a Fish Fry to celebrate his getting off.

The nuns who ran those Magdalene schools for wayward girls in Ireland not only diligently fed them into the jaws of predatory priests and bishops, but committed grotesque acts of physical and sexual abuse themselves. And covered them up for decades.

JUST like that freak'n Catholic cult...HIDING the PERVERTS!

What the fuck is that all about?

WHERE is the outrage? Holy and Pious? Pearl Clutchers? Bible Thumpers?

Sheesh.

I would never want to support that awful organization.

Next up, Little League.

he was sent to prison,was released at age 75 or so and was arrested within two weeks for molesting . now he`s in prison for the rest of his life.

The only thing that surprises me is that it didn't come to light a whole lot sooner.

Back in the mid 50's, there were rumors that a local scout master was molesting members of his troop. I avoided joining because of the rumors and because I was 13 or 14 and getting more interested in cars and girls than hanging around with a bunch of other smelly little kids.

It was a long time ago and I don't recall how or even if the rumors had any substance or were just malicious gossip but I recall hearing about it from a lot of people including my sister's boyfriend who was like 17 and claimed that the guy had made a move on him and the cops knew about it but wouldn't do anything because the scout master was a "prominent" member of the community.