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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:19 PM Jun 2019

Trump White House Says OSC Is Violating Kellyanne Conway's 'Free Speech' By Calling for Firing

Source: Mediaite

President Donald Trump‘s White House press shop was quick to respond to the news that the Office of Special Counsel has called for Kellyanne Conway‘s firing for repeated violations of federal law by stating that their findings “violate her constitutional rights to free speech and due process.”

On Thursday afternoon, the OSC released a report finding that Conway repeatedly violated the Hatch Act, and recommending she be removed from federal service.

Immediately following that report, White House Deputy Press Secretary Steven Groves released a statement condemning the ruling.

“The Office of Special Counsel’s (OSC) unprecedented actions against Kellyanne Conway are deeply flawed and violate her constitutional rights to free speech and due process,” the statement read. “Others, of all political views, have objected to the OSC’s unclear and unevenly applied rules which have a chilling effect on free speech for all federal employees. Its decisions seem to be influenced by media pressure and liberal organizations — and perhaps OSC should be mindful of its own mandate to act in a fair, impartial, non-political manner, and not misinterpret or weaponize the Hatch Act.”

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-white-house-says-osc-is-violating-kellyanne-conways-free-speech-by-calling-for-firing/

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Trump White House Says OSC Is Violating Kellyanne Conway's 'Free Speech' By Calling for Firing (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2019 OP

Can we just skip forward to when he's out of office, already? Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #1

Simple answer, NO saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #7

He probably gave her a raise for this. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2019 #2

maybe some more gropes as well nt msongs Jun 2019 #3

Note to media matt819 Jun 2019 #4

All of their Hatch act violations are blatant and egregious. Once again, they whine for the benefit truthisfreedom Jun 2019 #5

But she's such a nice person ProudLib72 Jun 2019 #6

I don't think he knows how this works. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2019 #8

Trump believes the 1st Amendment guarantees him Freedom of Association sop Jun 2019 #10

Once again, showing the Dotard's ignorance UpInArms Jun 2019 #9

Unfortunately the vast majority of the people, Stonepounder Jun 2019 #11

Note to a future Congress C_U_L8R Jun 2019 #12

Analysis: "Blah, blah, blah." This 2-week-old Kellyanne Conway clip looks exceedingly painful today Gothmog Jun 2019 #13

It was a Trump appointee who Recommended the firing of Kellyanne.......... riversedge Jun 2019 #14

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)

1. Can we just skip forward to when he's out of office, already?

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:20 PM

Jun 2019

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)

7. Simple answer, NO

Reply to Shell_Seas (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:31 PM

Jun 2019

"Give the opposition no quarter." I demand the facts before reaching any conclusion.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)

2. He probably gave her a raise for this.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:25 PM

Jun 2019

msongs

(67,413 posts)

3. maybe some more gropes as well nt

Reply to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:27 PM

Jun 2019

matt819

(10,749 posts)

4. Note to media

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:27 PM

Jun 2019

Just say no.

All media. Don't call her for comment. Don't invite her on panels. Don't interview her. Don't print or report on her press releases. Don't return her calls. Don't attend her media events.

Sure, that leaves Fox. Okay.

BTW, your rights to free speech change when you're a federal employee and when you speak in that capacity.

truthisfreedom

(23,148 posts)

5. All of their Hatch act violations are blatant and egregious. Once again, they whine for the benefit

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:28 PM

Jun 2019

of their idiot base. None of their followers know what the fuck the Hatch Act is nor why it was adopted anyway.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)

6. But she's such a nice person

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:31 PM

Jun 2019

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,464 posts)

8. I don't think he knows how this works.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:38 PM

Jun 2019

Can I now write bad checks, on the grounds that preventing from so doing infringes on my 1A rights?

sop

(10,190 posts)

10. Trump believes the 1st Amendment guarantees him Freedom of Association

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:49 PM

Jun 2019

"Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peaceably to assemble" means he can meet with Russians to get "opposition research," so long as everyone's nice and polite.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)

9. Once again, showing the Dotard's ignorance

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:47 PM

Jun 2019

In passing the Hatch Act, Congress affirmed that partisan activity government employees must be limited for public institutions to function fairly and effectively. The courts have held that the Hatch Act is not an unconstitutional infringement on employees’ first amendment right to freedom of speech because it specifically provides that employees retain the right to speak out on political subjects and candidates.

https://www.thoughtco.com/the-hatch-act-3368321

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)

11. Unfortunately the vast majority of the people,

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:53 PM

Jun 2019

up to and including the denizens of the White House, don't have a freaking clue as to what 'Free Speech' really means.

Obviously, Steven Groves is part of that vast majority.

(If you are part of the vast majority, to get a better understanding of how Free Speech works, try calling your boss an idiot and an asshole a few times and discover that while the feds won't arrest you, your boss can and probably will fire your ass on the spot.)

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)

12. Note to a future Congress

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:57 PM

Jun 2019

Put penalties onto the Hatch Act

Gothmog

(145,291 posts)

13. Analysis: "Blah, blah, blah." This 2-week-old Kellyanne Conway clip looks exceedingly painful today

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:59 PM

Jun 2019

Link to tweet

riversedge

(70,239 posts)

14. It was a Trump appointee who Recommended the firing of Kellyanne..........

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 07:20 PM

Jun 2019

.............
The Fix Analysis
‘Blah, blah, blah’: This 2-week-old Kellyanne Conway clip looks exceedingly painful today

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/13/blah-blah-blah-this-week-old-kellyanne-conway-clip-looks-exceedingly-painful-today/?utm_term=.004a481cfad6

June 13 at 4:28 PM

White House counselor Kellyanne Conway now bears the undistinguished honor of having a Trump appointee take the unprecedented step of calling for her removal from government. That’s after the Office of Special Counsel — no, not Robert S. Mueller III — for the second time found that she has committed multiple violations of the Hatch Act.

Making the situation even more embarrassing for Conway: Just two weeks ago, she taunted the news media about her Hatch Act violations, asking when her “jail sentence” would begin.

Conway isn’t going to jail, and it also seems unlikely President Trump will act on the Office of Special Counsel’s recommendation. But given the news, it’s worth looking back on the May 29 clip — and the falsehoods, pomposity and general disdain for ethics rules Conway displays.

Let’s take it piece by piece.....................

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