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BumRushDaShow

(129,111 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:42 PM Jul 2019

Congressional Democrats subpoena Trump organization

Source: CNN




(CNN) Congressional Democrats have issued subpoenas to the Trump Organization and other Trump businesses tied to a lawsuit accusing President Donald Trump of profiting from foreign governments in violation of the Constitution, but the Justice Department is now asking an appeals court to step in and block the move.

Democrats sent more than three-dozen subpoenas, demanding a response by July 29, seeking to collect evidence about the President's financial records, after a federal judge ruled last month that Democrats could proceed with the legal discovery process in their lawsuit. But the Justice Department, defending Trump in his presidential capacity, has requested that an appeals court Monday overrule the lower court's decision and prevent the subpoenas from going forward. If the Democratic members of Congress collected evidence in the emoluments lawsuit, DOJ wrote, Trump "is likely to suffer irreparable injury" because of "intrusive discovery into his personal finances based on the public office he holds."

The escalating court fight represents a new front in Democrats' quest to obtain the President's financial records, a battle that's now playing out across multiple congressional committees and judicial jurisdictions. The new subpoenas come from the Constitutional Accountability Center, which is representing a group of House and Senate Democrats led by Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut and House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler of New York, who are alleging Trump is violating the emoluments clause of the Constitution. The judge overseeing the suit, Emmet Sullivan of the US District Court in Washington, gave the Democrats permission to subpoena the documents and take depositions beginning June 28.

The Justice Department asked in its filing Monday for the DC Circuit Court of Appeals to hear their case before Sullivan finishes resolving it at the trial level. The department says Sullivan was wrong in his interpretation of congressional power and the constitutional clause that prohibits officials from receiving benefits from foreign powers. Sullivan previously told the Justice Department that it could not yet appeal his decisions that allowed the case to move forward into evidence-collection. If the district court's clearly erroneous orders are allowed to stand, this improper suit will proceed and the Members will commence discovery aimed at probing the President's personal financial affairs because he holds federal office," the Justice Department wrote to the DC Circuit on Monday.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/politics/trump-organization-subpoena/index.html

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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
1. I read the following opinion to prevent the discovery process and my mind explodes
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:13 PM
Jul 2019

"Trump is likely to suffer irreparable injury because of intrusive discovery into his personal finances based on the public office he holds."

Well, he will only suffer that injury if there is any wrong doing...

I want some Democrat to send a bill to Congress stating the following:
"That no President, CEO of any company can be indicted because the corporation would suffer from the disruption it will cause in the Company President or CEO functions for which he/she was elected to carry."

I want to see how executives would argue about something so stupid as the opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted. The man is a criminal but because of the title he cannot be indicted? Are you kidding me?

PSPS

(13,603 posts)
3. "likely to suffer irreparable injury" was the same faulty reasoning that got bush jr. installed.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:51 PM
Jul 2019

BumRushDaShow

(129,111 posts)
5. They have to follow a progression of informal and then formal (legal-type) steps
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 03:00 PM
Jul 2019

in order to convince the courts that they gave every opportunity for compliance and "here is what was tried". That way they can avoid the courts telling them to go back and try "x, y, & z" first before returning to attempt a court remedy.

BumRushDaShow

(129,111 posts)
7. In this case
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:23 PM
Jul 2019

it's not so much the need for "quicker" but the need for "thorough" (but with urgency). You'll note that the courts (all the way to the SCOTUS) have pretty consistently ruled against the crap that Barr's obstruction minions have submitted to them time and time again because it lacked any justification (let alone anything that had a semblance of legality ).

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
8. Justice delayed is justice denied- altho it's not denied yet.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 08:57 PM
Jul 2019

Prompyly and loudly and repeatedly calling out injustice is preferable to letting the legal wheels grind away.
This administration has clearly demonstrated what happens when you give 'em an inch.

BumRushDaShow

(129,111 posts)
9. It's up to the people to "call out"
Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:59 AM
Jul 2019

and confront those causing the injustice because they have the largest voice due to their sheer numbers. Simply pointing at elected officials attempting to "help" whilst sitting back and complaining about them and ignoring those causing the harm, will not suddenly bring about the progress that is desired. Unless a literal coup is the intent for enacting change, then the legal wheels still need to turn.

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