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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 05:47 PM Jul 2019

Barr says Trump administration can legally add citizenship question to census

Source: The Hill

Attorney General William Barr said Monday that he believes the Trump administration can legally add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, though the Supreme Court ruled against its inclusion last month.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Barr said he has been in regular contact with President Trump about the question, which the president is determined to see featured on the decennial survey.

“I agree with him that the Supreme Court decision was wrong,” Barr told the AP. The attorney general added that he thinks there is “an opportunity potentially to cure the lack of clarity that was the problem and we might as well take a shot at doing that.”

Barr declined to provide further details to the wire service on how the question will be added to the census.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/452043-barr-says-trump-admin-can-legally-add-citizenship-question-to-census

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Barr says Trump administration can legally add citizenship question to census (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jul 2019 OP
Won't this kinda rub all the SCOTUS people the wrong damn way? Leghorn21 Jul 2019 #1
Judges RobinA Jul 2019 #24
WTF? NRaleighLiberal Jul 2019 #2
Barr is now representing a guy who called Epstein a good guy. Evangelicals? Crickets. nt SayItLoud Jul 2019 #3
evangelicals have an endless supply of "mulligans" PSPS Jul 2019 #28
No mention of the Census in Article II but it is in Article I LiberalFighter Jul 2019 #4
So??? former9thward Jul 2019 #27
When will the public burning of the US Constitution be scheduled? Right before the "election"? sinkingfeeling Jul 2019 #5
Well, since the president and his AG disagree with it... JohnnyRingo Jul 2019 #21
I actually expected the President For Life announcement on the Fourth of July. Midnight Writer Jul 2019 #26
I keep thinking "they've overreached". Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #6
They send them letters or give them demerits or something, LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #13
Of course he does. keithbvadu2 Jul 2019 #7
Barr just gave Justice Roberts the one finger salute. I wonder how Roberts will take that. alwaysinasnit Jul 2019 #8
He'll lick his finger and purr. Nobody stands up to Donny and Barr. LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #14
Any opinion on whether Barr' dissing of SCOTUS authority might ignite a turf war? alwaysinasnit Jul 2019 #18
Justice Department just announced its legal team for the census question: Mrs. Overall Jul 2019 #9
I notice now the team is all male. nt SunSeeker Jul 2019 #16
tRumps fixer to the rescue nt yaesu Jul 2019 #10
Why Not? moonseller66 Jul 2019 #11
Even if it's put on the Census, no one should answer it sakabatou Jul 2019 #12
"lack of clarity"? No, Barr, it wasn't the lack of clatity, it was the LYING. SunSeeker Jul 2019 #15
Wonder what kind of pretzel they will try to bend to justify it especially after that cstanleytech Jul 2019 #17
Barr says orange dickwad can do anything he wants, for as long as he wants. warmfeet Jul 2019 #19
So Barr is a scofflaw before SCOTUS. Calling it "wrong" should get his butt impeached. How dare he. ancianita Jul 2019 #20
Okay Federalist Society member BARR what part of the Constitution does it say that the AG.......... turbinetree Jul 2019 #22
Barr is a Toad. Stoolie. Suckup. repeat: Maine-i-acs Jul 2019 #23
this dangerous man is becoming more and more brazen every day onetexan Jul 2019 #25
Barr can say and do whatever he wants to because McConnell has muzzled Senate oversight. Ford_Prefect Jul 2019 #29
The headline misrepresents Barr's statement Snellius Jul 2019 #30
So Trump sends a "presidential memorandum" to Commerce Dept to include infamous .... MFGsunny Jul 2019 #31
DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION ROB-ROX Jul 2019 #32

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
24. Judges
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:22 PM
Jul 2019

take their top-of-the-heap status pretty seriously. And I don’t know any SC judges but I knew a lower court judge well.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
21. Well, since the president and his AG disagree with it...
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:50 PM
Jul 2019

...it isn't worth the parchment it's printed on.

Saying the Supreme Court is wrong and can be ignored is exactly like torching the Constitution, since interpreting it is the sole job of the SC.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
13. They send them letters or give them demerits or something,
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:39 PM
Jul 2019

because nobody wants to put 'the country' through a showdown.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
11. Why Not?
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:17 PM
Jul 2019

And just when I thought that nice, round pucker of rump's was just Vlad's size, along comes Barr to make rump look like an amateur.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
15. "lack of clarity"? No, Barr, it wasn't the lack of clatity, it was the LYING.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:43 PM
Jul 2019

Good luck trying to "cure" that!

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
17. Wonder what kind of pretzel they will try to bend to justify it especially after that
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 06:53 PM
Jul 2019

computer evidence proving they lied to the courts in first place as their reason.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
19. Barr says orange dickwad can do anything he wants, for as long as he wants.
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:33 PM
Jul 2019

Barr is entirely correct, until someone holds him to account.

My guess is, no one will hold him to account.

Not one single person, not one single entity, not one single body.

I disagree with the supreme court regularly.

Guess that means I can do anything I want, anytime I want.

Just have to disagree and you are home free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
22. Okay Federalist Society member BARR what part of the Constitution does it say that the AG..........
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 07:54 PM
Jul 2019

can just apparently just make up shit, it does not give you and your right wing ilk the power to make up shit, not in the below Article............................

You should be LOCKED UP.....................


Article 1, Section 2 of the United States Constitution:


The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

https://www.census.gov/history/pdf/Article_1_Section_2.pdf

Maine-i-acs

(1,499 posts)
23. Barr is a Toad. Stoolie. Suckup. repeat:
Mon Jul 8, 2019, 08:00 PM
Jul 2019

if Barr LIKES something it is inevitably BAD for America.

he thought trump was spied on, when the Intel agencies were actually tapping the phones of known Russian spies and it happened that Trumpers were on the other end.

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
29. Barr can say and do whatever he wants to because McConnell has muzzled Senate oversight.
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 06:30 AM
Jul 2019

The Senate could very quickly address this and other egregious power grabs, except that McConnell will not allow it. I do not doubt that other GOP members would support Barr et al but some do not. Since no one can discuss or question such actions in the Senate committees no oversight actually functions in Congress.

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
30. The headline misrepresents Barr's statement
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 07:06 AM
Jul 2019

The lede representing this interview is much more definitive than Barr's much more tentative quote: “an opportunity potentially to cure the lack of clarity that was the problem and we might as well take a shot at doing that.” It seems they are still trying to work within the Supreme Court's ruling rather than trying to pull an executive order end run, a clear violation of the rule of law. Interesting to see whether Roberts can be intimidated by political pressure.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
31. So Trump sends a "presidential memorandum" to Commerce Dept to include infamous ....
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jul 2019


So Trump sends a "presidential memorandum" to Commerce Dept directing it to include infamous citizenship question, and THAT'S how they provide "clarity" for a "redo" to US Supreme Court about having willfully and wantonly LIED to that Court in the first place????

ROB-ROX

(767 posts)
32. DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION
Tue Jul 9, 2019, 04:30 PM
Jul 2019

Those thugs are NOT defending the constitution and they are ENEMIES of the republic. It is time to send the clowns to prison for braking the law. Only the zombie republicans will do NOTHING because the democrats lack the BALLS to do anything. I see TURDS on both side and I will vote for the lesser of the two EVILS.........

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