Troops pack up gear to ship out of Afghanistan
Source: AP-Excite
By DEB RIECHMANN
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (AP) - It was nearly 2 a.m. when U.S. Army Pfc. Zach Randle jumped out of his bulky armored vehicle in southern Afghanistan for what he hoped would be the last time.
"I don't want to see it again. It's been through a lot," Randle said of the 19-ton (17-metric ton) vehicle that was his ride - and sometimes his bed - during a six-month deployment to volatile Kandahar province.
"It protected us, but I'm just in a hurry to turn it in to be closer to going home," said Randle, who has now left Afghanistan as part of President Barack Obama's drawdown of 33,000 U.S. troops by Sept. 30. The pullout - 10,000 last year and 23,000 more this year - will be finished within days. That will leave 68,000 American troops in this country to fight militants and help prepare Afghan forces to take over security nationwide.
While some service members go home, others are busy preparing thousands of vehicles and other equipment for shipment. It's a laborious task that's more difficult than it was in Iraq because of landlocked Afghanistan's tough mountainous terrain, lack of roads and its mountain passes that will soon be covered with snow.
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In this Thursday, May 24, 2012 photo provided by the U.S. Army, various military vehicles are seen parked after being cleaned and stripped of sensitive items for shipment as part of drawdown of 23,000 U.S. troops by Sept. 30, 2012 at the Kandahar Air Field south of Kabul, Afghanistan. The U.S. military has started the process of moving out thousands of MRAPS, Humvees and other vehicles as part of the drawdown of 23,000 U.S. troops by the end of September. It is a massive logistical undertaking involving on bases around the country. (AP Photo/U.S. Army, Staff Sgt. Michael Behlin.)
ghurley
(205 posts)how many are going to die or be put in danger trying to get all this crap out?
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)ghurley
(205 posts)for battle zone used, uparmored, ied resistant equipment for disaster relief back home? how about we just build some new equipment? after all the costs associated with shipping that used equipment back we could either sell it or blow it up and then hire some people back here to build the new stuff that dosnt need to withstand a roadside bomb.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)more will be killed before the complete draw down. In fact the entire military personnel is U.S. property.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Not all of it is just armored vehicles. There is alot of stuff over seas that was taken over there with guard units that is needed here at home in case of natural disasters.
ghurley
(205 posts)what I'm saying is that we don't need this specific equipment back home. Build new equipment here for the natural disasters.
It's going to be a very difficult, expensive and possibly life threating job to get this equipment home. Is it really worth the hassle? We sure could use the jobs of buidling new equipment as well. If we are supposed to be transitioning to the Afgan government, then we should just sell what's over there to them and get our men and women on the next flight out.
rug
(82,333 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)and who will be manning the various bases to protect the pipelines.
Remember when everyone got excited about the troop pullout in Iraq. ?
Here is what was left in Iraq then, per ABC news:
There will be a US embassy in Baghdad which, when it opened in early January 2009, was one of the largest and most expensive ever built.
There will be consulates in Basra and Irbil, which both opened in June 2011.
There is also a diplomatic presence in Kirkuk that will eventually become a consulate.
Roughly 1,700 people will be working under the American mission in Iraq at the various diplomatic posts.
The State Department is expected to have about 5,000 security contractors in Iraq as of January 2012 (they already have about 3,000 in country).
Additionally they will have 4,500 so-called general life support contractors, who provide food and medical services, operate the aviation assets, etc.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/10/a-look-at-us-presence-in-iraq-after-troops-leave/
another perspective:
State Department officials have said they expect that 5,000 security contractors will be needed in Iraq next year to protect U.S. diplomats.
A life support team of an additional 4,500 contractors will cook, clean and provide transportation and other services.
Their continued presence in Iraq as well as in Afghanistan, where there is almost one contractor for every service member demonstrates how much the U.S. government has come to rely on private companies to provide war services abroad.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Soldiers-gone-but-contractors-remain-in-Iraq-2426228.php
rug
(82,333 posts)LilSol
(50 posts)Enough blood in this country!
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R40764.pdf
(As of March 2011)
Afghanistan: 90,339 contractors, 99,800 Troops
Iraq ........... 64,253 contractors 45,660 troops
Source: CENTCOM 2nd Quarter FY 2011
Contractor Census Report; Troop data from Joint Chiefs
According to DOD, as of March 31, 2011, there were approximately 174,000 DOD contractor
personnel in the CENTCOM AOR compared to approximately 214,000 uniformed personnel in
the region who are supporting operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.
while these figures are for a year ago, the report is useful to point out the extremely high numbers of privatized workers who are being paid by our tax dollars, and making a profit on top of that.
If we had used only troops for these jobs, which is what used to happen in the military, the total cost would be considerably less, since profit is a not a factor.
so when the DOD and the State Dept keep claiming they need more and more of our dwindling tax dollars, keep in mind the money goes to those who profit from the wars of aggression we are paying for.