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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 02:33 PM Aug 2019

Huge record cache details how Jeffrey Epstein, madam lured girls into depraved world

Source: Miami Herald

A chilling picture of how hundreds of girls and young women from around the world were trafficked for sex by Jeffrey Epstein, his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, and a number of other powerful business and world leaders emerged Friday in court documents unsealed in New York.

The documents, a portion of thousands of pages in a 2015 federal defamation case, offer brutal details about Epstein’s trafficking of teenage girls from across the United States, Russia and Sweden — and Maxwell’s compulsive and often abusive quest to provide him with new girls over a span of years in the early to mid 2000s.

Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who brought the lawsuit against Maxwell and settled it for an undisclosed sum in 2017, is central to the case, providing evidence to substantiate her exploitation at the hands of Epstein and Maxwell through photographs, plane logs and even a medical record from Presbyterian Hospital in New York where she was taken by Epstein after a particularly abusive sex episode.

Some of the testimony is difficult to read, as when one 15-year-old Swedish girl, shaking and crying in despair, tells a butler who worked for one of Epstein’s closest friends that she had been taken to Epstein’s island in the Caribbean and forced to have sex with him and others. The butler relates the story under oath. The girl, visibly traumatized, told the houseman who worked for Eva Dubin, a former Miss Sweden and founder of the Dubin Breast Center at Mount Sinai, and her husband, prominent hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin, that Epstein and Maxwell had physically threatened to harm her and seized her passport to keep her on the island, according to the butler’s statement. She was so distraught she couldn’t recall how she got back to the U.S. mainland, but the butler testified that Maxwell brought her to the Dubin residence.

Read more: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article233704797.html

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Huge record cache details how Jeffrey Epstein, madam lured girls into depraved world (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 OP
Now lets arrest all the enablers, too. marble falls Aug 2019 #1
ASAFP Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #5
Name every one of them, no matter how rich, powerful and connected. n/t OnlinePoker Aug 2019 #7
Names, yes. Ghost Dog Aug 2019 #11
a real world wide pedo rape ring partly based in Mar-A-Largo PerceptionManagement Aug 2019 #2
Acosta needs to lose his law license perdita9 Aug 2019 #3
He needs to lose his freedom. lagomorph777 Aug 2019 #6
I'd be happier atreides1 Aug 2019 #10
KnR Hekate Aug 2019 #4
Oh yeah? Well Hillary's campaign liked pizza, same diff. IronLionZion Aug 2019 #8
Ghislaine Maxwell should be in jail dalton99a Aug 2019 #9
That is a great photo. Ghost Dog Aug 2019 #12
It doesn't say dalton99a Aug 2019 #14
. Ghost Dog Aug 2019 #17
Have the British press bothered with this?That's a damning photo of Prince Andrew, the greedy lecher Princetonian Aug 2019 #21
Top right story on Guardian front page: Prince Andrew groped young woman's breast at Epstein house muriel_volestrangler Aug 2019 #25
This photo was on the NBC news murielm99 Aug 2019 #31
I've been downloading/reading documents all day today FakeNoose Aug 2019 #13
Aside from Prince Andrew, have you come across specific prominent individuals? Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #15
Former NM Gov. Bill Richardson was mentioned herding cats Aug 2019 #19
Yes. Princetonian Aug 2019 #22
And now he doesn't have to answer for it anymore. We woke up to news of his apparent "suicide". calimary Aug 2019 #34
Right - and none of us are surprised FakeNoose Aug 2019 #35
Whomever is uncovered, so be it...... dawnie51 Aug 2019 #16
Queen Elizabeth is a very strong woman. colorado_ufo Aug 2019 #18
+1 2naSalit Aug 2019 #20
Way to go, Miami Herald! They've done most of the legwork on this story all the way along! mpcamb Aug 2019 #23
If you really want to scare the heck out of tRump, PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #24
Virginia is lying Cicada Aug 2019 #26
Why would she lie? What's the benefit? Marengo Aug 2019 #28
I believe Epstein victims have received tens of millions in settlements Cicada Aug 2019 #29
I also can't believe George Mitchell would be involved. MBS Aug 2019 #37
I hope this is sarcasm. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2019 #39
my grandaughters age!!!! release Epstein to the grandmothers of America.. we will take care of him. samnsara Aug 2019 #27
Epstein is dead The King of Prussia Aug 2019 #30
Did not expect to wake up and read this. Wow. Mrs. Overall Aug 2019 #32
I now fear for Giuffre's life. Duppers Aug 2019 #33
Yeah. She's probably gone into hiding. calimary Aug 2019 #36
Released Friday. This is why Epstein is now dead. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2019 #38
2. a real world wide pedo rape ring partly based in Mar-A-Largo
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 02:44 PM
Aug 2019

and yet the republican QAnon morons think Russian Agent Bonespurs is secretly targeting democrats.

atreides1

(16,094 posts)
10. I'd be happier
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:14 PM
Aug 2019

With both of his hands and his tongue...but 60 years without possibility of parole, in a New York state prison...that would be fine with me!!!

dalton99a

(81,636 posts)
9. Ghislaine Maxwell should be in jail
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:11 PM
Aug 2019

Virginia Roberts poses for a photo with Prince Andrew as Guislaine Maxwell smiles in the background. Roberts reports that she was lent out to Prince Andrew when she was a teenage sex slave for Palm Beach millionaire Jeffrey Epstein and his partner, Maxwell. Roberts says she was used as a sex slave for Epstein for years starting at the age of 16. Roberts says that Epstein regularly lent her out to some of his wealthy, powerful acquaintances for sex. Copy Photo Courtesy of Virginia Roberts
 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
21. Have the British press bothered with this?That's a damning photo of Prince Andrew, the greedy lecher
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:40 PM
Aug 2019


Virginia Roberts poses for a photo with Prince Andrew as Guislaine Maxwell smiles in the background. Roberts reports that she was lent out to Prince Andrew when she was a teenage sex slave for Palm Beach millionaire Jeffrey Epstein and his partner, Maxwell. Roberts says she was used as a sex slave for Epstein for years starting at the age of 16. Roberts says that Epstein regularly lent her out to some of his wealthy, powerful acquaintances for sex. Copy Photo Courtesy of Virginia Roberts

muriel_volestrangler

(101,390 posts)
25. Top right story on Guardian front page: Prince Andrew groped young woman's breast at Epstein house
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 04:10 AM
Aug 2019

... court files allege

Maxwell was sued by Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre in 2015. Giuffre alleged that Maxwell defamed her by claiming she was a liar. Giuffre had also alleged that Epstein coerced her into sexual encounters with Prince Andrew.

Buckingham Palace has repeatedly denied Giuffre’s allegations. In a highly unusual statement issued in 2015, Buckingham Palace said “any suggestion of impropriety with underage minors is categorically untrue” and explicitly denied Prince Andrew ever had sexual contact with Giuffre.
...
“Ms Sjoberg also testified about sexual acts that occurred with her, Prince Andrew, and Ms Giuffre, when she and [Maxwell] were staying at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion,” Giuffre’s lawyers said in the document, which was filed in January 2017.

Sjoberg testified, per court documents: “I just remember someone suggesting a photo, and they told us to go get on the couch. And so Andrew and Virginia sat on the couch, and they put the puppet, the puppet on her lap. And so then I sat on Andrew’s lap, and I believe on my own volition, and they took the puppet’s hands and put it on Virginia’s breast, and so Andrew put his on mine.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/09/prince-andrew-court-documents-ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein

murielm99

(30,777 posts)
31. This photo was on the NBC news
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:36 AM
Aug 2019

last night. It was cropped to show only the girl with the disembodied hand at her waist. There was no image of Epstein's madam or Prince Andrew. There was no mention of their names, either.

FakeNoose

(32,823 posts)
13. I've been downloading/reading documents all day today
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:30 PM
Aug 2019

I'm sure that's how I'll be spending my weekend. There's no end in sight. It's all horrible and fascinating at the same time. My God, that Jeffrey Epstein is a creepy character.

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
15. Aside from Prince Andrew, have you come across specific prominent individuals?
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:46 PM
Aug 2019

I saw a Yahoo news story that Trump is mentioned on a manifest for one of Epstein's flights to his island, but it wasn't clear if that info came from this particular group of newly released court docs.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
19. Former NM Gov. Bill Richardson was mentioned
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:21 PM
Aug 2019

He knew it was coming I suspect since when I read it I looked and found this article.

SANTA FE - Former Gov. Bill Richardson recalls visiting the southern Santa Fe County mansion of Jeffrey Epstein — the wealthy hedge fund manager arrested recently on new federal charges of sexually abusing young girls — just a single time, a Richardson spokeswoman says.

"They did not know each other well," said Maddy Mahony, director of media relations for Richardson. "To describe them as friends would be inaccurate."

Epstein's relationships with the rich, famous and powerful are being revisited in light of new charges of conspiracy and sex trafficking filed against him in New York.

Federal Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta resigned last week following renewed criticism over a 2008 plea deal with Epstein that he oversaw as the U.S. attorney in Miami. In that case, Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges of soliciting a minor for prostitution in Florida. He served 13 months in jail, during which he was allowed to go to his office during the day.

Richardson is among the many well-known people listed in Epstein's so-called "little black book," containing phone numbers and other contacts, and which has become part of court records. Epstein also donated $50,000 to each of Richardson's two gubernatorial campaigns, in 2002 and 2006. Richardson re-gifted the 2006 campaign donation to charity as sex-crime accusations against Epstein emerged.
https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/local/new-mexico/2019/07/16/former-new-mexico-governor-bill-richardson-visit-jeffrey-epstein-ranch/1744279001/
 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
22. Yes.
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 05:46 PM
Aug 2019

"In a 2016 sworn deposition, Giuffre, now 35, also named a number of powerful men she says she was directed to have sex with, including the late scientist Marvin Minsky, modeling scout Jean-Luc Brunel, former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, former Senator George Mitchell and prominent hedge fund manager Glenn Dubin.

Nearly all the men Giuffre said she was directed to have sex with issued denials on Friday, with some of them insisting that they never met her. No charges have been filed against anyone other than Epstein, who was indicted last month on two counts of sex trafficking in New York.
"

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article233704797.html#storylink=cpy

FakeNoose

(32,823 posts)
35. Right - and none of us are surprised
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:19 PM
Aug 2019

To tell you the truth I'm surprised he lasted this long in jail. He really was a sick puppy, and he knew he was finally found out. I'm sure a lot of wealthy people were tired of his blackmail/kompromat scheme.

Look for many books coming out in the next 6 to 12 months. These people should all be "outed" but I doubt it will happen.


dawnie51

(959 posts)
16. Whomever is uncovered, so be it......
Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:47 PM
Aug 2019

Prince Andrew indeed. And if it comes home to one of our own, then that's just too bad. Chips can fall where they may. If you were "entertained" by Epstein, you deserve to be exposed for the creep that you are.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
29. I believe Epstein victims have received tens of millions in settlements
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:11 AM
Aug 2019

I believe Virginia learned that making claims about Epstein caused some people to get huge payments. And that she figured if she spiced up her claim with charges against the powerful it would increase the odds of a settlement. Look, Alan Dershowitz has seen a thousand cases where criminals were caught thru a very unexpected detail emerging. If you had sex with an underage girl in a setting where it was common the odds were extremely high you would get caught, IMO. Dershowitz surely knew the odds of jail would be pretty high. So I find it extremely unlikely he would take such a risk. And in the case of another person she accused he and his wife say they have provided travel records proving Virginia was lying. Senator George Mitchell. Has there ever been a human being more honest and upright? Marvin Minsky? The MIT computer genius? Really? She’s lying, I am about 99% certain.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
37. I also can't believe George Mitchell would be involved.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 03:28 PM
Aug 2019

As you said, he's as honest and upright as they come.

calimary

(81,527 posts)
36. Yeah. She's probably gone into hiding.
Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:23 PM
Aug 2019

But with trump in power (with a shit ton of suspicious - um - let’s just say “adjacency”) and Bill Barr willingly doing everything within his considerable power to cover up for trump, Hell, I’d want to go into hiding, too.

Make like a banana and split. (Or BE split...)

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