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BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:33 AM Aug 2019

Trump admin announces rule that could limit legal immigration

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) - The Trump administration released a regulation Monday that could dramatically cut the number of legal immigrants allowed to enter and stay in the US by making it easier to reject green card and visa applications. Paired with last week's enforcement raids on food processing plants in Mississippi, Monday's announcement amounts to a concerted effort by the administration to limit legal immigration and crack down on illegal immigration.

The 837-page rule applies to those seeking to come to or remain in the United States via legal channels. The so-called public charge rule is designed to ensure immigrants can support themselves financially. In doing so, though, it'll likely make it harder for low-income immigrants to come to the US.

Under current regulations put in place in 1996, the term is defined as someone who is "primarily dependent" on government assistance, meaning it supplies more than half their income. But it only counted cash benefits, such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families or Supplemental Security Income from Social Security. Officials can take into account an applicant's financial resources, health, education, skills, family status and age. But few people are rejected on these relatively narrow grounds, experts said.

Immigrant advocates have argued that the rule, as it was proposed, went far beyond what Congress intended and would discriminate against those from poorer countries, keep families apart and prompt legal residents to forgo needed public aid, which could also impact their US citizen children. They also said it would penalize even hard-working immigrants who only need a small bit of temporary assistance from the government.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/12/politics/legal-immigration-public-charge/index.html



Here is a link to the regulation (PDF file) - http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/08/12/2019-17142.pdf

WaPo article -

Trump administration to penalize immigrants who use or might use public benefits, a move aimed at curbing legal immigration

By Washington Post Staff
August 12 at 9:21 AM

In one of President Trump's most significant immigration moves to date, applicants could be denied green cards and other immigration benefits if they use food assistance, housing vouchers or other forms of public welfare.
This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/08/12/trump-administration-to-penalize-immigrants-who-use-or-might-use-public-benefits-a-move-aimed-at-curbing-legal-immigration/?wpisrcal_news__alert-politics--alert-national&wpmk1
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hlthe2b

(102,311 posts)
2. that's MY goal for Stephen Miller
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:42 AM
Aug 2019

As much as I detest Trump, I detest this rancid Himmler wannabe even more.

BumRushDaShow

(129,197 posts)
3. Yup plus forcing a limit to immigration in general - just updated the source to CNN with more info
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:42 AM
Aug 2019

(WaPo took too long to update )

Lonestarblue

(10,028 posts)
4. Trump could have saved 836 pages,
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:53 AM
Aug 2019

and just issued a one-page order saying “I, Donald J. Trump, Supreme Being and Stable Genius, declare the ideology of apartheid as the official immigration policy of the United States. Only wealthy, white people are allowed to immigrate to the United States of White Supremacy.”

cstanleytech

(26,303 posts)
6. If Obama had overstepped his power like Trump has the Repugnants would be
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:05 AM
Aug 2019

calling for his impeachment but since it's Trump they will give him a pass.
Some because they are afraid of him and lack a spine and others because they are simply just as vile as he is.

ripcord

(5,445 posts)
15. He didn't overstep his power
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:05 PM
Aug 2019

I wish people would actually limit their discussion to facts, the previous rule that only cash assistance would be considered for the public charge provision of the law was put into place by the Clinton administration in 1999 by publishing new regulations just as this administration has done. There are plenty of reasons to hate this new rule and even this President and his administration, there is no need to simply make things up.

cstanleytech

(26,303 posts)
16. I am speaking in general and that if Obama had done something they disapproved of
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 12:22 PM
Aug 2019

that they would be claiming it was overstepping of his power.

lark

(23,134 posts)
8. There is an existing problem, folks, but not what's being claimed.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:18 AM
Aug 2019

I worked for a very large physician billing group affiliated with a large university. We employed quite a few doctors from other countries. They almost always brought their family members over, and signed documents that they would be personally financially responsible for them. Then, far too often, I saw them getting Medicaid for their parents who were living in mansions and wearing Rolexes & diamonds. In at least one case for sure, they rented cheap run down apt. for the parents for the site inspections. This is what needs to be investigated and changed, ,but it's totally not a priority of the rw rich repugs. They only want to hurt the poor. They don't care that many of these rich doctors are Muslim, or at least come from Muslim countries, they just care that they are rich so let the parents steal $$ from American taxpayers. One of the doctors even had the nerve to try to get me to falsify some paperwork so his dad could get Medicaid. I refused and got a major ass chewing from my boss nd brely retained my job. Nothing was put in writing, too incriminating, but it was the start of years of bad blood between me and the company. I was making very good money for a woman in the area and there's no way I could have made the same anywhere else in town, so I kept my head down and stayed until it was time for me to retire early.

dalton99a

(81,534 posts)
9. I've heard the same thing from others
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:33 AM
Aug 2019

Chain migration is quite common in medicine and the tech industry. (And not that common among, say, landscapers and agricultural workers - they don't have money to hire lawyers)

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,532 posts)
10. Trump administration releases new 'public charge' rule making it easier to reject immigrants
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:37 AM
Aug 2019
Trump administration releases new 'public charge' rule making it easier to reject immigrants
BY CHRIS MILLS RODRIGO - 08/12/19 09:38 AM EDT

The Trump administration on Monday released the final version of a controversial rule that dramatically increases the government's ability to reject green cards for people who are deemed likely to depend on government aid such as food stamps, housing assistance and Medicaid.

The new "public charge" rule would link a subject's immigration status to their income and their use of certain public programs.

Published in the Federal Register, the rule will officially be released Wednesday and go into effect 60 days later.

Ken Cuccinelli, the acting director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, announced the rule at a press briefing at the White House on Monday morning.
....

Inadmissibility on Public Charge Grounds

Docket ID: USCIS-2010-0012 | Agency: U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USC | Parent Agency: Department of Homeland Security (DHS)

Summary:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is reviewing public feedback received on the notice of proposed rulemaking published on October 10, 2018. After considering public input, DHS will finalize regulatory provisions guiding the inadmissibility determination on whether an alien is likely at any time to become a public charge under 8 U.S.C. 1182(a)(4). DHS proposed to add a regulatory provision, which would define the term public charge and would outline DHS’s public charge considerations.

RIN: 1615-AA2 | Impacts and Effects: None | CFR Citation: 8 CFR 103,8 CFR 212 to 214,8 CFR 248 | Priority: Economically Significant

"Impacts and Effects: None". Here's the NPRM (notice of proposed rulemaking), now finalized. They received over 266,000 comments. Several were duplicates, part of mass-mail campaigns.

Inadmissibility on Public Charge Grounds

Here's the PR:


I know how the country can save some money.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
11. It's time to reign in Presidential powers.
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 10:57 AM
Aug 2019

Regardless of Party - the unitary Presidency has gone too far.

onetexan

(13,048 posts)
12. the Idiot had already told us during the time he was campaigning in 2015-16 that he wants only
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 11:13 AM
Aug 2019

Eastern Europeans. The almost constant denegrating of people of color of every nonwhite ethnicity further serve to let us know what his preference is, and what a racist Ahole he is.

alwaysinasnit

(5,066 posts)
17. They already have a mechanism in place for the so-called abuse/public charge. It comes from the
Mon Aug 12, 2019, 03:16 PM
Aug 2019

Affidavit of Support that is required of immigrants receiving immigration benefits. The sponsor(s) are subject to reimbursing the government if the immigrant receives certain government benefits after they receive their permanent resident status.

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