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brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:30 PM Sep 2019

Judge rules Michigan adoption agencies can bar LGBTQ couples

Source: CBS News

A judge in Michigan has ruled that religious-based adoption agencies that contract with the state can refuse to place children in LGBTQ homes. State Attorney General Dana Nessel reached a settlement earlier this year barring faith-based agencies from excluding same-sex couples from adoption services, but on Thursday a federal judge in Grand Rapids shot that down.

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The suit, filed by the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty St. Vincent Catholic Charities, alleges violations of the plaintiffs' First Amendment rights and the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act. It is among more than 90 agencies that receive state funding, according to the complaint. The state often contracts private adoption agencies to place children from troubled homes with new families.

Faith-based agencies argued they would have to shut down their adoption and foster care services rather than violate their religious beliefs. However, Democrats and LGBTQ advocates said restrictions against gay families amounted to a "policy of bigotry."

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Jonker's ruling said St. Vincent Catholic Charities' longstanding practice of adhering to its religious beliefs and referring same-sex and unmarried couples to other agencies is not discriminatory.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/same-sex-couples-adopt-michigan-adoption-agencies-can-now-bar-lgbtq-homes-refuse-to-place-children-with-gay-parents/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=74388214

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Judge rules Michigan adoption agencies can bar LGBTQ couples (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2019 OP
Figures that it was a judge named Jonkers in Grand Rapids. That's why I got the hell out of town. catbyte Sep 2019 #1
My husband's family lives in Grand Rapids/Surrounding area. Coventina Sep 2019 #5
The Solution? jayfish Sep 2019 #2
+100 sinkingfeeling Sep 2019 #4
I'm very nearly an absolutist on the separation of church and state but.... TomSlick Sep 2019 #10
I don't get it, this is called discrimination. mysteryowl Sep 2019 #3
Sexual orientation isn't a protected class federally (yet), and not in all states (some, yes). X_Digger Sep 2019 #7
As someone who adopted two children, stories like this drive me crazy. Pendrench Sep 2019 #6
Disgusting. Behind the Aegis Sep 2019 #8
You make a very important point. TomSlick Sep 2019 #11
Too amusing. roamer65 Sep 2019 #9
"religious FREEDOM restoration act" lambchopp59 Sep 2019 #12
Bush judge Polybius Sep 2019 #13

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
5. My husband's family lives in Grand Rapids/Surrounding area.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:11 PM
Sep 2019

Whenever I go there, the lack of diversity is really unnerving.

I have never been a place that is SO WHITE!!!

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
2. The Solution?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:40 PM
Sep 2019

Do not allow religious-based adoption agencies to contract with the state. This in and of itself should be unconstitutional.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
10. I'm very nearly an absolutist on the separation of church and state but....
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:24 PM
Sep 2019

I can live with a religious organization contracting with the state to provide a governmental service. However, it seems to me that if a religious organization does so, it must follow the law applicable to the state. If a religious organization, e.g. a hospital operated by a church, contracts with the state it should be deemed to waive any religious objection to the requirements of the law applicable to the state.

It's a simple choice for the religious organization. Which is more important, religious scruples or state money?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
7. Sexual orientation isn't a protected class federally (yet), and not in all states (some, yes).
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 04:03 PM
Sep 2019

If a religious group were to try to refer a mixed race couple due to some hurr durr religion bullshit, they'd face a much harder battle.

Pendrench

(1,358 posts)
6. As someone who adopted two children, stories like this drive me crazy.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:20 PM
Sep 2019

If a couple can provide a child (or children) with love, comfort, stability, and support...what the hell does it matter if they are LGBTQ?

Prior to adopting our children, we had to have a criminal background check, letters of support from friends, and visits by social workers to make sure our home was a safe environment. If LGBTQ couples can do the same, then they should have the same opportunity as any other couple that wants to adopt.

Not only is this ridiculous and discriminatory, it's evil to deny children a chance to have a family due to the bigotry of others.

I'd say this is unbelievable, but sadly that's not the case.

Tim

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
11. You make a very important point.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:28 PM
Sep 2019

We desperately need a Democratic House, Senate, and President to amend the civil rights laws to make discrimination based on sexual orientation as illegal as discrimination based on race or sex.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. Too amusing.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:17 PM
Sep 2019


Never mind the fact that a LGBTQ household usually has a higher disposable income than straight ones.

The unadopted kids will end up in foster homes that aren’t much different than puppy mills. They are a paycheck to many foster homes and are booted out the minute the state checks stop.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
12. "religious FREEDOM restoration act"
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:49 PM
Sep 2019

Restoring the power to hogtie the FREEDOM anyone who doesn't measure up to their religious/moral yardsticks.

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