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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:46 PM Sep 2019

Rudy Giuliani says he won't testify without consulting Trump

Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN



(CNN) Rudy Giuliani told CNN on Friday that he would not testify for the House of Representatives' impeachment inquiry without consulting his client, President Donald Trump.Trump's personal lawyer said his work for the President should be protected by attorney-client privilege. "Ultimately, if I were to say yes and he were to say no, I can't testify," Giuliani said, adding that he has not talked to Trump about the possibility he would testify. The former New York City mayor has become a central figure in the unfolding scandal surrounding Trump's communications with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that have led to a House impeachment inquiry into the President's conduct. According to a White House-released transcript of a July call between the two leaders, Trump asked Zelensky to work with Giuliani and Attorney General William Barr to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, though there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden.

Giuliani said he has not heard from any of the three House committees investigating whether Trump acted improperly in his communications with the Ukrainians. Asked if he was concerned he would be subpoenaed by the House, Giuliani laughed. "I consider them a joke. A sad joke. They have no legitimacy. I would think of challenging their subpoena on the grounds that they're not a legitimate committee," Giuliani said.

Giuliani and Barr are among those who House Democrats have told CNN they would like to hear from. On Friday, Rep. Mike Quigley, a Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN's Jim Sciutto that he has "several questions" for Giuliani, including whether the President's personal lawyer has a security clearance. Rudy may be the best source of information, because he doesn't know what he shouldn't say," Quigley said, adding that he thinks Barr is "part of that list" of officials the committee will call to testify.

Later Friday, Giuliani told CNN that he was no longer planning to attend an event in Armenia next Tuesday after The Washington Post reported that Russian President Vladimir Putin would be in attendance as a guest. In its report, the Post said Giuliani's appearance at the event would be paid and that the event was backed by the Kremlin. The post, citing the event's agenda, said the former mayor was going to take part in a panel "led by Sergey Glazyev, a longtime Putin adviser who has been under U.S. sanctions since Russia's invasion of Ukraine five years ago."



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/giuliani-testimony-protected-interview/index.html



Original article -

(CNN) Rudy Giuliani told CNN on Friday that he would not testify for the House of Representatives' impeachment inquiry without consulting his client, President Donald Trump. Trump's personal lawyer said his work for the President should be protected by attorney-client privilege.

"Ultimately, if I were to say yes and he were to say no, I can't testify," Giuliani said, adding that he has not talked to Trump about the possibility he would testify.

Giuliani said he has not heard from any of the three House committees investigating whether Trump acted improperly in his communications with the Ukrainians. Asked if he was concerned he would be subpoenaed by the House, Giuliani laughed. "I consider them a joke. A sad joke. They have no legitimacy. I would think of challenging their subpoena on the grounds that they're not a legitimate committee," Giuliani said.

Giuliani is among those who House Democrats have told CNN they would like to hear from.

This is a breaking story and will be updated.
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Rudy Giuliani says he won't testify without consulting Trump (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 OP
C'mon Roody, you can sit right next to Pompeo and testify TOGETHER!! Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #1
It's an impeachment inquiry drray23 Sep 2019 #2
Well..... TomSlick Sep 2019 #23
However, what about questions of ACTIONS he took himself? karynnj Sep 2019 #36
You are correct. TomSlick Sep 2019 #37
He didn't travel to Ukraine to represent Trump as a defense attorney Zambero Sep 2019 #3
Precisely. Except no goods to get, so they'd have to be manufactured. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2019 #10
Good point Zambero Sep 2019 #11
Yeah, and I'll bet a dime to a donut the taxpayers paid for the fare. Frustratedlady Sep 2019 #30
He went there in coordination with the State Dept!!!111!! (Lol) Arazi Sep 2019 #39
At one point he said he had volunteered to do the job dixiegrrrrl Sep 2019 #40
OK Rudie... thecrow Sep 2019 #4
I really don't think Rudy is going to have a choice calguy Sep 2019 #5
He is wrong. Attorneys aren't allowed to break the law for their clients. pnwmom Sep 2019 #6
He should talk to Michael Cohen first. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #8
And when he does so, stay with Cohen for a long long long long time! BumRushDaShow Sep 2019 #16
Guess he isn't smart enough to figure that out for himself. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #19
Exactly n/t Lulu KC Sep 2019 #17
Unbelievable. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #20
YOU read my mind ! Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #24
I worked in commercial real estate development for years -- not in NYC. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #25
In other words, get his talking points straight so he can perjure himself. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #7
Dear Rudderless.............go down to the nearest jail cell or booking room................. turbinetree Sep 2019 #9
Why would anyone want this POS Scalded Nun Sep 2019 #12
And we come to the part of the story where the Kremlin literally pays the president's lawyer Cha Sep 2019 #13
+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #14
Bullshit on his part as either he is Trumps private attorney and thereby has no business cstanleytech Sep 2019 #15
Just as we thought. Trump's sock puppet -- not a hero. nt NCjack Sep 2019 #18
Cause he knows he'll get good advice? louis-t Sep 2019 #21
Just what "the Bull" Graviano said when first asked to testify against John Gotti ... marble falls Sep 2019 #22
You slimy bum, Giuliani! Learned nothing from Cohen, eh??? MFGsunny Sep 2019 #26
That "he touches and it dies" thingy Zambero Sep 2019 #28
Thinks he may be paid???? elleng Sep 2019 #27
Maybe he's a double agent. SCVDem Sep 2019 #29
Which one? Zambero Sep 2019 #31
Soooo... Trump's lawyer seeks legal advice from his client? JohnnyRingo Sep 2019 #32
Rudy will sing like a bird. Marcuse Sep 2019 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Sep 2019 #34
Who needs Rudy? Just supoena his cell phone DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #35
Trump ate Turbineguy Sep 2019 #38
And does that mean the decrepit old man.. Maxheader Sep 2019 #41
You will testify is Congress says you will testify Takket Sep 2019 #42
Pelosi, "We have ways of making you talk, Mr. Giuliani." yellowcanine Sep 2019 #43
Probably the first responsible legal action he's taken... brooklynite Sep 2019 #44

drray23

(7,633 posts)
2. It's an impeachment inquiry
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:51 PM
Sep 2019

They should drag him there if needed. He is not White House staff, he cant claim any sort of privilege.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
23. Well.....
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:13 PM
Sep 2019

Ghouliani is Trump's lawyer. Conversations between a lawyer and client are generally protected by the attorney/client privilege. There are exceptions. If Trump and Ghouliani were conspiring to commit a crime - and they almost certainly were - there is no privilege.

Even if the lawyer is wildly incompetent or even crazy (both of which seem true in this case), the attorney/client privilege will generally apply.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
36. However, what about questions of ACTIONS he took himself?
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:44 AM
Sep 2019

Isn't the privilege related only to things Trump related to him in conversations? As you said, the things in questions are things he was personally involved with.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
37. You are correct.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:54 AM
Sep 2019

The attorney/client privilege only applies to communication between the attorney and client about the legal representation or advise. Even then, there are exceptions which likely apply here.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
3. He didn't travel to Ukraine to represent Trump as a defense attorney
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:52 PM
Sep 2019

He went there to push toward getting the goods on a political rival. The phone call transcript confirms this. The man seems very context-challenged. Sorry Rudy -- wrong place, wrong hat, wrong reason.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
30. Yeah, and I'll bet a dime to a donut the taxpayers paid for the fare.
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 12:01 AM
Sep 2019

What did he have? Ten trips? They should add this to Trump's tab or the Republican Party's bill.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
39. He went there in coordination with the State Dept!!!111!! (Lol)
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 05:33 PM
Sep 2019

He's going to have a hard time saying he's the President's personal attorney after that performance with his text messages and assertions that he was going with State Dept coordination.

He's worked overtime to give himself a DoS cover. Good

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
40. At one point he said he had volunteered to do the job
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 06:35 PM
Sep 2019

then he said the State Dept. had sent him, which means all related records are public.

Trump said in phone call with Zelenzky that he wanted him to talk with both Rudy and Barr.
Barr is having a lot of trouble figuring out who HE should be working for also.

The issues of confidentiality aren't gonna fly.

calguy

(5,315 posts)
5. I really don't think Rudy is going to have a choice
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

This is some serious shit. Playing the clown here could get him crushed.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
6. He is wrong. Attorneys aren't allowed to break the law for their clients.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:59 PM
Sep 2019

For example, he and Trump might have conspired to break campaign finance law.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
24. YOU read my mind !
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:24 PM
Sep 2019

I was thinking about Jimmy Breslin's book, "The Gang Who Couldn't Shoot Straight" yesterday and realizing the parallels here. Except, of course, that book was about the Mob, and trumpie just isn't even THAT smart.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)
25. I worked in commercial real estate development for years -- not in NYC.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:44 PM
Sep 2019

The scuttlebutt was always that the New York mob was deeply involved in the development and construction industry, and that included the drumpfs.

I think that was the name of an old movie, too.

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
9. Dear Rudderless.............go down to the nearest jail cell or booking room.................
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:04 PM
Sep 2019

and try on your favorite color jumpsuit.........................they have many colors to choose from at different sites...........................

Cha

(297,323 posts)
13. And we come to the part of the story where the Kremlin literally pays the president's lawyer
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:11 PM
Sep 2019


Mahalo, BumRushDaShow!

cstanleytech

(26,295 posts)
15. Bullshit on his part as either he is Trumps private attorney and thereby has no business
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:17 PM
Sep 2019

representing the US government to any other country or he is a government employee thereby he cannot claim attorney client privilege with Trump.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
21. Cause he knows he'll get good advice?
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:55 PM
Sep 2019

Really? Jeez. "Hey Rudy, avoid the clap. Jimmy Duggan".
Jimmy Duggan: "That's good advice!"

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
22. Just what "the Bull" Graviano said when first asked to testify against John Gotti ...
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 07:01 PM
Sep 2019

Always say no to the first proffer from the DA.

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
26. You slimy bum, Giuliani! Learned nothing from Cohen, eh???
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:55 PM
Sep 2019

So many thoughts here.
So little time.

Like .... swimming with the fishes ... ya know, like that.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
28. That "he touches and it dies" thingy
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 10:36 PM
Sep 2019

Cocky Rudy is not near as smart as he makes himself out to be.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
29. Maybe he's a double agent.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 11:43 PM
Sep 2019

Where do his loyalties lie?

I think Rudy is making money and hiding it from his soon to be ex!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
35. Who needs Rudy? Just supoena his cell phone
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:31 AM
Sep 2019

You know, the one he was waving around on TV saying everything was right there on it.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
41. And does that mean the decrepit old man..
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 07:57 PM
Sep 2019

Won't cause stumpy any problems?

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Opposite:
strong
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worn out or ruined because of age or neglect.
"centuries-old buildings, now decrepit and black with soot"

Takket

(21,577 posts)
42. You will testify is Congress says you will testify
Sat Sep 28, 2019, 11:08 PM
Sep 2019

Or you will be jailed.

Drumpf does not get to decide who does what.

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