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George II

(67,782 posts)
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:03 PM Oct 2019

House committee chairmen warn Pompeo to stop "intimidating" witnesses

Source: CNN (via twitter)

The chairmen of the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees released a statement today responding to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s accusations that they were “intimidating and bullying” State Department officials by calling them for depositions related to the Ukraine inquiry.

Instead, the Democratic lawmakers accused Pompeo of “intimidating Department witnesses in order to protect himself and the President,” noting that he was on Trump's July 25 phone call with the Ukrainian president.

“Secretary Pompeo was reportedly on the call when the President pressed Ukraine to smear his political opponent. If true, Secretary Pompeo is now a fact witness in the House impeachment inquiry. He should immediately cease intimidating Department witnesses in order to protect himself and the President,” the statement said.

“Any effort to intimidate witnesses or prevent them from talking with Congress — including State Department employees — is illegal and will constitute evidence of obstruction of the impeachment inquiry. In response, Congress may infer from this obstruction that any withheld documents and testimony would reveal information that corroborates the whistleblower complaint,” the statement added.

THREE CHAIRS STATMENT ON SECRETARY POMPEO STONEWALLING HOUSE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY






Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-10-01-2019/h_8e58ec09c32f3ade1b94c1005be83bd7
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House committee chairmen warn Pompeo to stop "intimidating" witnesses (Original Post) George II Oct 2019 OP
Sounds good oswaldactedalone Oct 2019 #1
stop or what? nt msongs Oct 2019 #2
Exactly. Mike 03 Oct 2019 #3
Short term not to much long term once Trump is out of office it could lead to criminal charges for cstanleytech Oct 2019 #17
Charged with contempt, obstruction, etc. IronLionZion Oct 2019 #4
OH YEAH! flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #8
US Constitution Article 2, Section 4 IronLionZion Oct 2019 #9
If the Clowns of the Apocalypse refuse to cooperate and just dont't budge, Magoo48 Oct 2019 #21
Or what else? nt LanternWaste Oct 2019 #14
If the House issues subpoenas and they fail to appear - Haggis for Breakfast Oct 2019 #23
Fight fire with fire. lastlib Oct 2019 #5
sounds to me like flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #6
That's how I read it. Quackers Oct 2019 #10
Kind of like what happens when a person refuses to enter a plea to a charge flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #11
Exactly. And that is the correct approach. lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #16
Or else what big man? vercetti2021 Oct 2019 #7
Here I was led to believe starting an official impeachment inquiry would compel cooperation. LiberalLovinLug Oct 2019 #12
Why should taxpayers continue to Scarsdale Oct 2019 #13
"Congress may infer from this obstruction that any withheld documents...corroborate the...complaint" lagomorph777 Oct 2019 #15
Indeedy! nt Duppers Oct 2019 #19
They have to give him fair warning in writing b4 charging him in his own special impeachment article ancianita Oct 2019 #18
Lock him up too! world wide wally Oct 2019 #20
Stronger than many, but still just a "strongly worded letter." PSPS Oct 2019 #22
We need to fix it ck4829 Oct 2019 #25
Kick ck4829 Oct 2019 #24
warnings, strongly worde letters, etc have ZERO impact on trump and his admin, so if democrats beachbumbob Oct 2019 #26
stop threatening and and throw the punch. Jeez this is getting old. Hotler Oct 2019 #27
I learned this morning that Linda Ed Oct 2019 #28
That explains a lot. SharonAnn Oct 2019 #29

oswaldactedalone

(3,491 posts)
1. Sounds good
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:06 PM
Oct 2019

but we're dealing the criminal right (which covers a large swath of the right) and they will scoff at this. If they refuse, they have to arrested and frog-marched out of their office on the way to Central Booking.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. Exactly.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:12 PM
Oct 2019

It is a strong statement, and it threatens to use obstruction as an article of impeachment... But then what?

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
17. Short term not to much long term once Trump is out of office it could lead to criminal charges for
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 04:22 PM
Oct 2019

all involved unless Trump pardons all of them.

IronLionZion

(45,453 posts)
4. Charged with contempt, obstruction, etc.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:14 PM
Oct 2019

Pompeo can also be impeached, and then removed from office.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
8. OH YEAH!
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:21 PM
Oct 2019


They'd better make good on that promise. Because these mo-fo's are NOT going to give up the evidence.

IronLionZion

(45,453 posts)
9. US Constitution Article 2, Section 4
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:25 PM
Oct 2019
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Magoo48

(4,716 posts)
21. If the Clowns of the Apocalypse refuse to cooperate and just dont't budge,
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 06:15 PM
Oct 2019

so what then? The House can throw down gauntlets until, well, there’s a pile of gauntlets. Without a way to force compliance they’ll continue to thumb their noses. Apparently, there is no real authority to exercise against these bozos, so why should they do a damn thing?

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
23. If the House issues subpoenas and they fail to appear -
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 09:17 PM
Oct 2019

Hold them in contempt and LOCK THEM UP if necessary, YES, I DO believe it will come to that. Look at how they have flaunted other laws and traditions. These guys will obstruct until their freedom is restricted.

lastlib

(23,247 posts)
5. Fight fire with fire.
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:19 PM
Oct 2019

Politics--the skillful use of blunt instruments. We'll see whose instruments are "blunter".

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
6. sounds to me like
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:20 PM
Oct 2019
"Congress may infer from this obstruction that any withheld documents and testimony would reveal information that corroborates the whistleblower complaint"

sounds like they're saying "if you don't give us the documents and testimony, we'll conclude that the fact that you're hiding it is all the proof we need that you're guilty"

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
11. Kind of like what happens when a person refuses to enter a plea to a charge
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:35 PM
Oct 2019

It doesn't get the accused out of jeopardy, their case just gets defaulted to "no contest".

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
13. Why should taxpayers continue to
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:52 PM
Oct 2019

pay their salaries and expenses, when they refuse to do the job they are in office to do? Remove them from their positions if they refuse to perform their duties. They work for the PEOPLE not just tRump. Stop their medical insurance for them and their families. Stop paying them. Obviously, they do not seem to think they work for "The people" Right? Same for "Low" Barr.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. "Congress may infer from this obstruction that any withheld documents...corroborate the...complaint"
Tue Oct 1, 2019, 04:08 PM
Oct 2019

Absolutely! About time to say it out loud!

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
26. warnings, strongly worde letters, etc have ZERO impact on trump and his admin, so if democrats
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 08:27 AM
Oct 2019

in the house wish to send a REAL message, it should the house's Sgt of Arms

Hotler

(11,425 posts)
27. stop threatening and and throw the punch. Jeez this is getting old.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:58 AM
Oct 2019

do something, do it swift and hard or shut up and sit down. Stop playing nice.

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