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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,617 posts) Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:21 AM Oct 2019

EPA issues violation notice to San Francisco

Source: Associated Press, via Los Angeles Times

CALIFORNIA
EPA issues violation notice to San Francisco

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
OCT. 2, 2019 10:38 PM

SAN FRANCISCO — The Trump administration ratcheted up its feud with California on Wednesday as the Environmental Protection Agency issued a notice accusing San Francisco of violating the federal Clean Water Act.
Last month, President Donald Trump warned of a potential violation notice, saying the city was allowing needles and human waste to go through storm drains to the Pacific Ocean — an allegation fervently denied by city officials.

The violation notice came in the form of a letter to Harlan Kelly Jr., general manager of the city’s Public Utilities Commission. It said the EPA had identified violations in the city and county wastewater treatment and sewer system, including lack of proper operation and maintenance that has allowed raw and partially treated sewage to flow onto beaches, into the ocean and sometimes into streets and homes.

The letter alleged that some discharges contained heavy metals and bacteria and said the city hasn’t kept up proper cleaning, inspection and repair schedules for the system or properly reported or issued public warnings for sewage diversions.

It’s the latest salvo in a feud between the administration and Democrat-controlled California, which has filed more than 50 lawsuits opposing Trump initiatives on the environment, immigration and healthcare. EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler sent a letter to Gov. Gavin Newsom last week alleging that waste left by the homeless in big cities such as San Francisco and Los Angeles was being improperly handled. ... San Francisco Mayor London Breed said the violation notice contains “mischaracterizations, inaccuracies and falsehoods“ and that the city’s sewer system is one of the most effective in the country.
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Read more: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-02/epa-issues-violation-notice-to-san-francisco

I barely made the 12-hour limit.

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EPA issues violation notice to San Francisco (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 OP

San Fran is one of the cleaner cities I have visited. appleannie1 Oct 2019 #1

"... and Democrat-controlled California, ..." ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #2

It's correct usage in this case. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #4

Yes but they don't have to compound this. ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #5

But "Democratic controlled" would have been incorrect. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #6

+1 mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #12

Why does everyone think this way? When you register, its says "Democrat" oldsoftie Oct 2019 #7

This sounds like something Trump saw on Fox News. JohnnyRingo Oct 2019 #3

This is the same city that almost named their state-of-the-art sewer plant after GWB Brother Buzz Oct 2019 #8

So Trump Is Now Taking Shots At Nancy Pelosi DallasNE Oct 2019 #9

another abuse of power flibbitygiblets Oct 2019 #10

Trump is such a petulant PAB LOSER nt mr_lebowski Oct 2019 #11

The baykeepers track this actually OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2019 #13

appleannie1

(5,070 posts)

1. San Fran is one of the cleaner cities I have visited.

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:31 AM

Oct 2019

If the administration wants to get rid of sewage, they should start with the White House.

aggiesal

(8,924 posts)

2. "... and Democrat-controlled California, ..." ...

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 10:40 AM

Oct 2019

Democrat-controlled?
You mean Democratic controlled, right?
Because we all know that there is no such thing as the Democrat Party.

This coming from the AP, which is supposed to be an Independent not-for-profit "news" cooperative.
I thought they were better than this.

As for the article, this is just pure vindictive punitive blow back because SF is a sanctuary city.
It will continue until TURD45 is out of office.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,617 posts)

4. It's correct usage in this case.

Reply to aggiesal (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:07 AM

Oct 2019

"Democrat-controlled" is a compound adjective. I'm looking for a site that provides a good explanation, but it's not easy. Try this:

When do you need to use a hyphen for compound words?
....

General Principle 3
Most compound adjective rules are applicable only when the compound adjective precedes the term it modifies. If a compound adjective follows the term, do not use a hyphen, because relationships are sufficiently clear without one.

client-centered counseling
but
the counseling was client centered

t-test results
but
results from t tests

same-sex children
but
children of the same sex

"Client-centered" is a compound adjective that resembles the compound adjective that the AP used. It consists of a noun (client) and and adjective (centered) that together form an adjective. This case is one that requires a hyphen. The compound adjective in the AP article similarly consists of a noun (Democrat) and an adjective (controlled). It also requires a hyphen.

I don't think the AP Stylebook is online. Your local public library might have a copy.

I used to buy up those grammar books from the 60s at yard sales. They don't show up much anymore. They're helpful to have around.

HTH

aggiesal

(8,924 posts)

5. Yes but they don't have to compound this. ...

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:12 AM

Oct 2019

They could have straight out used "Democratic controlled"
instead of using the compound "Democrat-controlled"

Sick of hearing that word. It's meant as a pejorative.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,617 posts)

6. But "Democratic controlled" would have been incorrect.

Reply to aggiesal (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:13 AM

Oct 2019

That's an adjective modifying another adjective.

I have no beef with AP's style.

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)

12. +1

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:44 PM

Oct 2019

Democrat-Controlled is correct in this case ...

oldsoftie

(12,609 posts)

7. Why does everyone think this way? When you register, its says "Democrat"

Reply to aggiesal (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:23 AM

Oct 2019

You are a Democrat. The bumper sticker says "Vote Democrat".
Dont let it be used against you. Use it yourself.
Its ridiculous.

JohnnyRingo

(18,646 posts)

3. This sounds like something Trump saw on Fox News.

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:07 AM

Oct 2019

The big shows have been focused on how liberalism is causing homelessness and crime in democratic led cities. In their coverage they've been desperately looking for cause & effect to further their agenda.

It's not unbelievable that Dobbs or Hannity made claims that all those syringes and "filth" from homeless minorities are making it's way into sewers. Trump no doubt saw it and told Wheeler to take action.

Brother Buzz

(36,466 posts)

8. This is the same city that almost named their state-of-the-art sewer plant after GWB

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 11:31 AM

Oct 2019

Up for vote: George W. Bush Sewage Plant

October 7, 2008
by Cody Pope

SAN FRANCISCO — George W. Bush’s legacy is at stake in more than one way this election season, with an eponymous ballot proposal on the docket in California. The San Francisco proposal seeks to rename a local sewage processing plant after the current President.

The official proposal, Prop-R on the ballot, was authorized after the “Presidential Memorial Commission” garnered 12,000 signatures from local residents.

Brian McConnell, co-author of the proposition, told Water & Wasterwater Treatment that President Bush’s behavior in office warranted the namesake facility. “In President Bush’s case, we think that we will be cleaning up a substanital mess for the next ten or 20 years. The sewage treatment facility’s job is to clean up a mess, so we think it’s a fitting tribute.”

But not everyone is amused with the proposition. Local Republicans, including Howard Epstein, chair of the San Francisco Republican Party, called the initiative an abuse of the system and “loony bin direct democracy.” Even some taking issue with the Bush administration have a problem with the proposition, arguing that the President doesn’t deserve to have a waste treatment facility named after him.

Still many find humor in the proposition. Bright Winn, a San Francisco plumber told the San Francisco Chronicle, “[Bush] has always done well for the affluent of America, and anyone that does well for the affluent should be named for the effluent.”

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)

9. So Trump Is Now Taking Shots At Nancy Pelosi

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Oct 3, 2019, 12:14 PM

Oct 2019

Abusing the powers of the EPA, which Trump wants to abolish.

You will note that the EPA offers no proof to back up the claims. That is a red flag right there, making this nothing but a political statement.