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(129,068 posts) Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:23 AM Oct 2019

Trump to meet with top Chinese official as trade talks reach critical stage

Source: Washington Post

Top White House officials met with Chinese Vice Premier Liu He on Thursday as President Trump signaled that a trade agreement may be close behind, buoying U.S. stock markets after a chaotic 12 hours.

The highly anticipated trade talks have spawned a rush of conflicting reports about whether they would spur progress or be cut short. The Dow Jones industrial average jumped roughly 150 points within minutes of Thursday’s open, after Dow futures tumbled as much as 300 points overnight. He met with U.S. Trade Representative Robert E. Lighthizer and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin Thursday morning.

The talks appeared to be in jeopardy after The South China Morning Post reported that little had come from deputy-level talks earlier in the week, and that higher-level talks involving Hehad been reduced to Thursday only.

But stocks rebounded after the White House said it was not aware of any schedule changes. A senior administration official told CNBC that Hewas still slated to leave Washington on Friday evening after two days of deliberations.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/10/10/trump-meet-with-top-chinese-official-trade-talks-reach-critical-stage/

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Original article and headline -

Trump says he will meet with China's vice premier on Friday amid new optimism in trade talks

By Washington Post Staff
Oct. 10, 2019 at 10:19 a.m. EDT

The president left open the possibility that the United States and China might finally resolve some of their trade differences, but he also suggested he might walk away from a deal once again. His comments moved the stock market higher.

This is a developing story. It will be updated.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2019/10/10/trump-says-he-will-meet-with-chinas-vice-premier-on-friday-amid-new-optimism-in-trade-talks/

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Trump to meet with top Chinese official as trade talks reach critical stage (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP

Is that supposed to give markets confidence? C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #1

Yes, manipulation. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #2

Just a theory: MF45 wants China to put back doors in Apple production, quid pro quo ancianita Oct 2019 #3

That famous speech from the movie "Network" comes to mind BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #5

THIS time, MF45 is a right wing globalist bent on outsourcing American privacy to yet ANOTHER ancianita Oct 2019 #6

Not just "privacy", pretty much damn near everything. And they are willing to pay BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #9

It's like "building the wall" against US and WE pay for it, unwilling, unknowing. ancianita Oct 2019 #10

+1 BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #11

One more hotel in Beijing and we may have a tariff deal. Firestorm49 Oct 2019 #4

One more laundromat. ancianita Oct 2019 #7

Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2019 #8

Yes, THEY do. Money over country. But they mislead WE in the country about it because they ancianita Oct 2019 #12

Thanks for your breathtaking post! ancianita Oct 2019 #13

this is YUGE, YUGE! i'ma going to back up the truck and buy a shitload of stock yaesu Oct 2019 #14

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)

1. Is that supposed to give markets confidence?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:24 AM

Oct 2019

I'd bet on Trump screwing it up. Again.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)

2. Yes, manipulation.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:28 AM

Oct 2019

I can't really interpret that as anything but an attempt to try to make himself look better to his base.

Oh, I made a huge mess here, but I didn't make a huge mess here because I fixed it. Something to that effect. And the same old, I could walk away, stable genius remark, like that is all there is to it; either/or, black and white.

He really has to end the tariffs, but if he did, it's got to look different than it is.

It is bullshit city.

ancianita

(36,061 posts)

3. Just a theory: MF45 wants China to put back doors in Apple production, quid pro quo

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:44 AM

Oct 2019

easing tariff charges.

Later, as MF45 goes for hot PR right before his election; as he trots out relieved farmers who once "took one for the team" now standing proudly with their strong man, the fine print of this deal will be obscured until later.

My bet is that American surveillance is being outsourced, because MF45 wants globalist corporate alliances, not democratic Western alliances, and he'll try to drag Western trading partners with him, or if they resist, just become an economic partner in the Big Eurasian push to dominate the planet.

BumRushDaShow

(129,068 posts)

5. That famous speech from the movie "Network" comes to mind

Reply to ancianita (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:01 AM

Oct 2019

ancianita

(36,061 posts)

6. THIS time, MF45 is a right wing globalist bent on outsourcing American privacy to yet ANOTHER

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:09 AM

Oct 2019

hostile foreign power. This globalist, with his lackey, Barr, wants back doors built everywhere while Barr fights Zuckerberg's plan for ene-to-end FB encryption.

AGAIN for the 2020 election. Now instead of Russia, it will be China with free rein.

He's got to be stopped. Or, once the deal is cut and lines open, tech security will be in for either a war or a "deal."

Apple's just given up its app access for Hong Kong resisters to the Chinese government. I'm sure that Apple's caving, thus vulnerability to appropriation by China, will be part of their discussion.

Win-win for China and globalist dictator, MF45.

We need to remove this bastard before he can fuck with our Internet any more than he and Russia already have.

BumRushDaShow

(129,068 posts)

9. Not just "privacy", pretty much damn near everything. And they are willing to pay

Reply to ancianita (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:25 AM

Oct 2019

(from our taxpayer money) whoever is willing to do it.

ancianita

(36,061 posts)

10. It's like "building the wall" against US and WE pay for it, unwilling, unknowing.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:28 AM

Oct 2019

BumRushDaShow

(129,068 posts)

11. +1

Reply to ancianita (Reply #10)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:29 AM

Oct 2019

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)

4. One more hotel in Beijing and we may have a tariff deal.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 10:54 AM

Oct 2019

ancianita

(36,061 posts)

7. One more laundromat.

Reply to Firestorm49 (Reply #4)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:10 AM

Oct 2019

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,475 posts)

8. Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:12 AM

Oct 2019

Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

By Jim Sciutto, Gloria Borger and Jeremy Diamon

Updated 9:39 AM ET, Fri October 4, 2019

(CNN) -- During a private phone call in June, President Donald Trump promised Chinese President Xi Jinping that the US would remain quiet on pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong while trade talks continued, two sources familiar with the call tell CNN.

The remarkable pledge to the Chinese leader is a dramatic departure from decades of US support for human rights in China and shows just how eager Trump is to strike a deal with Beijing as the trade war weighs on the US economy.

And like other calls with the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and Saudi Arabia, records of Trump's call with Xi were moved to a highly-classified, codeword-protected system, greatly limiting the number of administration officials who were aware of the conversation.

Trump's commitment to China had immediate and far-reaching effects throughout the US government as the President's message was sent far and wide.

In June, the State Department told then-US general counsel in Hong Kong, Kurt Tong, to cancel a planned speech on the protests in Washington because the President had promised Xi no one from the administration would talk about the issue.
....

CNN's Zachary Cohen contributed to this report.

This is very very gross, but I'm gripped by the suspicion that we do it in bipartisan fashion all the time: ignore our nominal values to preserve the relationship.

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Scoop: Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled - with my colleagues ⁦@GloriaBorger⁩ ⁦@JDiamond1⁩

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Nancy Pelosi, minutes ago: What did Trump promise China in exchange for interfering in our election?

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Previously at DU: Suckers!

Meanwhile HK protestors are singing the Star Spangled Banner

OK, who is going to tell them?

Protesters in Hong Kong waving the American flag and singing the American National anthem as they advocate for democracy. Wow!

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ancianita

(36,061 posts)

12. Yes, THEY do. Money over country. But they mislead WE in the country about it because they

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

Oct 2019

know that we think money over country is wrong.

Another great pity is that this CiC will put OUR military in service of China's geopolitical goals. Just because he doesn't say it, doesn't mean the Joint Chiefs won't see it coming.