without seeing his taxes? Really?

It often leads to the truth, and often leads to what the speaker intended without saying he's lying.

Come up with conditions under which the other person's statement would be true. As it is, we have one condition, and insist that it's the One Possible Condition. It's obvious that there are other possible conditions. It might take a bit of work to think of them, but that's okay. Some are more likely than others, but given my relative lack of knowledge the options are to possibly err in order to ask questions or to possibly err in order to just say bad things about people I don't like. One way leads to more knowledge; the other doesn't.

Perhaps they don't have his personal tax returns.

Perhaps they did, but in the course of years decided not to retain the copies they had.

Perhaps they inspected them, certified whatever it was they wanted to certify, and didn't ask for a copy.

Perhaps the funding required confirmation from some sort of tax returns, but there were financial guarantees in place from some other party.

Perhaps they needed proof of assets--most personal loans in the US are based on income as the guarantee, but it should be possible to place a lien on other properties as collateral. Details would depend on German, not US, law.

Or perhaps it wasn't US tax returns that were presented, but some non-US tax returns.

I can only assume there are other options

they are lying.............................through there teeth.............

I could not go and get a pencil sharper if I did not show my taxes for at least two years on anything......................

This is pure stonewalling..........................bring there asses into a the Congressional hearing..................and then have lay over at banking committee and ask exactly how did you get a license to operate in this country .......................

They have litigation everywhere - including with NY State

Spent so much time in court fighting the request to hand them over, why has Trump sued the bank not to release them and why has Trump had a team working on this obstruction.

If they do not have them the court should order them to pay court costs for wasting everybodies time

Deutsche Bank has told a federal appeals court that it does not have President Trump’s personal tax returns, the court said on Wednesday.

That might say to me that they have Trump's corporate tax returns

If they did, then they just admitted to money laundering.

Anyone who has ever gotten a mortgage loan, re-financed their house, applied for a Federally subsidized small business loan, or sought unsecured financing in excess of three to six months' current income has had to supply a copy of their tax return.

They loaned [Redacted] millions, maybe billions, without such due diligence?

Horse puckey.

skeptically,
Bright

Because banks are known not to require personal tax returns for multi-billion dollar loans.

I'll try that with my bank. I'd rather not give you my personal tax returns. Bank: We'd rather not loan you money.

It would be a very short discussion.

But not for Trump, it seems.

I'd like to check with Lindsey Graham to see if the bank required his tax returns in order to get a mortgage. I look forward to him getting back to us on that.

They wouldn't make loans to people without financial statements

We've all heard the stories about how Trump represents is businesses with inflated numbers when he's looking for loans but as deflated as possible when it comes to paying taxes, same with the value of his property

This is how Michael Cohen said he did business, but it's fraud to misrepresent your worth in either case.

My guess is that Trump has not filed tax returns. I know people who never file and they never get audited.

Before opening my real estate brokerage (and yes even before opening my vape shop) I had a finance company where I specialized in both business and mortgage funds for high net worth individuals and entities. Even in the age of no income no assets and stated income loans there is no gottdamn way an entity like Deutsche Bank would lend to a borrower like trump without verification of income and we know trump isn't coughing up 2 years of w2's and 2 months of paystubs. Let's remember trump started using Deutsche Bank AFTER his bankruptcy. No fucking way. Well I should say there is one way, if Deutsche Bank was directed by let's say some ultra power Russian to lend their own funds to trump as some kind of money laundering operation then that's possible. Of course that opens an whole new can of worms.

And let's just say I'm wrong and there are lending programs I am unaware of, well if DB is lending to someone like trump with his record of failure and with no income verification DB's bondholders, investors, and note buyers need to be asking some serious questions at this point.

DB should really reconsider this stance, as this answer means SERIOUS scrutiny of their lending practices are most certainly necessary.

... to his corporation?

others on a wild goose chase or just plain lying. I see massive fines of thousands and thousands of $ a day...

probably have his business tax returns or certified financial statements. Remember, too, that Trump loans didn't go through the regular channels, but through a special section for personal banking.