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BumRushDaShow

(129,298 posts) Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:19 PM Oct 2019

Trump's former Russia aide set to give revealing testimony on Giuliani, Sondland

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — Fiona Hill, who was until recently President Donald Trump’s top aide on Russia and Europe, plans to tell Congress that Rudy Giuliani and E.U. ambassador Gordon Sondland circumvented the National Security Council and the normal White House process to pursue a shadow policy on Ukraine, a person familiar with her expected testimony told NBC News.

Hill’s appearance next week before Congress has stoked fear among people close to the president, said a former senior White House official, given her central role overseeing Russia and Ukraine policy throughout most of the Trump administration.

Her plans to testify also pose a key test for whether congressional committees pursuing an impeachment inquiry can obtain testimony from other former officials who have left the administration, given the possibility that the White House may try to assert executive privilege to stop them from testifying.

Hill plans to say that Giuliani and Sondland side-stepped the proper process for accessing Trump on Ukraine issues, the person familiar with her expected testimony said, including circumventing John Bolton, who was Trump’s national security adviser until September.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-former-russia-adviser-set-give-testimony-giuliani-sondland-n1064846

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Trump's former Russia aide set to give revealing testimony on Giuliani, Sondland (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP

Her plans. . . Iliyah Oct 2019 #1

I hope she stays safe and healthy. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #2

People like them have no consciences. They would easily do anything to get the results they want. nt Judi Lynn Oct 2019 #5

That was my first thought. zanana1 Oct 2019 #12

I hope I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds as if Giuliani and Sondland totally bypassed tRump groundloop Oct 2019 #3

it will depend on Giuliani and Sondland having to protect themselves first BatteriesNotNeeded Oct 2019 #4

I don't think that's what is meant. "Giuliani and Sondland side-stepped the proper process for tblue37 Oct 2019 #11

More from your link UpInArms Oct 2019 #6

Would tRump throw Giuliani under the bus? Bayard Oct 2019 #7

He'll throw anyone and everyone under the bus to protect himself BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #8

Even someone that knows all his dirty secrets? Bayard Oct 2019 #9

For some reason, he doesn't care. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #10

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

1. Her plans. . .

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 08:31 PM

Oct 2019

We do have very legally smart questionnaires.

BigmanPigman

(51,621 posts)

2. I hope she stays safe and healthy.

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:20 PM

Oct 2019

I don't trust any of these bastards in DC.

Judi Lynn

(160,591 posts)

5. People like them have no consciences. They would easily do anything to get the results they want. nt

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 04:03 AM

Oct 2019

zanana1

(6,124 posts)

12. That was my first thought.

Reply to BigmanPigman (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 10:16 AM

Oct 2019

They don't have to threaten her with physical harm. They can threaten associates, family and friends.

groundloop

(11,521 posts)

3. I hope I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds as if Giuliani and Sondland totally bypassed tRump

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 09:47 PM

Oct 2019

If that's the case tRump can certainly deny involvement or knowledge.

I certainly can't believe ANYONE working for tRump lifted a finger without strict instructions since he's a voracious micro-manager, and I can't wait until he's held accountable for his crimes.

BatteriesNotNeeded

(48 posts)

4. it will depend on Giuliani and Sondland having to protect themselves first

Reply to groundloop (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 11:33 PM

Oct 2019

If there are tapes that implicate those two stooges, then the orange menace can't circumvent using executive privelege.

tblue37

(65,458 posts)

11. I don't think that's what is meant. "Giuliani and Sondland side-stepped the proper process for

Reply to groundloop (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 09:36 AM

Oct 2019

accessing Trump" implies that they accessed him in a way that avoided scrutiny from those who should have been scrutinizing them--and who should actually have been blocking access.

UpInArms

(51,284 posts)

6. More from your link

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 06:50 AM

Oct 2019

"Maybe she was engaged in secondary foreign policy if she didn’t know I was asked to take a call from President Zelenskiy’s very close friend," Giuliani told NBC News late Thursday. "I don’t know she knows what happened. She certainly never asked me. This is so far from a search for the truth it’s a joke or a very sad commentary on what we have let ourselves become."

A Russia hawk and one of the U.S. government’s foremost experts on Russian President Vladimir Putin, Hill had wound down her role overseeing Russia and Europe policy at the National Security Council in July shortly before Trump’s call with Zelenskiy. So it’s unclear how much she would know about that call, although she would have had deep knowledge of events leading up to the call.

At the White House, Hill was not viewed as a Trump loyalist, leading those close to Trump to worry that she can’t be controlled or pressured not to reveal potentially damaging information about the president, the former senior White House official said.

Bayard

(22,121 posts)

7. Would tRump throw Giuliani under the bus?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:13 AM

Oct 2019

That could be the gift that keeps on giving, if corroborated, because he's going to lie to protect his own ass, first and foremost.

BumRushDaShow

(129,298 posts)

8. He'll throw anyone and everyone under the bus to protect himself

Reply to Bayard (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 10:24 AM

Oct 2019

and if need be, his own family if it gets to that.

Bayard

(22,121 posts)

9. Even someone that knows all his dirty secrets?

Reply to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 11:20 AM

Oct 2019

I'm betting Rudy knows way more now than Cohen ever did.

BumRushDaShow

(129,298 posts)

10. For some reason, he doesn't care.

Reply to Bayard (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 11:45 AM

Oct 2019

Look at Michael Cohen. Under the bus, in jail, and full of secrets. And Cohen probably did more dirt than the Ghoul mainly due to the length of time he was employed.

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