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BumRushDaShow

(129,162 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 07:59 PM Oct 2019

Democrats consider what articles of impeachment actually look like

Source: CNN

(CNN)Democrats are discussing the scope and scale of potential articles of impeachment into President Donald Trump, lawmakers and aides tell CNN. The explosive testimony House lawmakers have obtained in their month-old impeachment inquiry is only one aspect of the impeachment work taking place, they say. The discussion about the parameters of the articles of impeachment -- the crux of any vote to indict Trump -- has also begun among members.

"People are beginning to think of what it would look like," said Rep. David Cicilline of Rhode Island, a senior member of the Judiciary Committee and member of Democratic leadership. Cicilline made clear in an interview with CNN that the talks are preliminary, but both staff and members have discussed the broad shape of what the articles may look like. Lawmakers and aides told CNN that the work is in its early stages, and ultimately is contingent on the report filed by the committees conducting the investigation. The early work also stands to form the backbone of a complicated decision looming over House Democratic leaders -- how broadly to go after the President.

"We're having discussions about what the likely articles would be, at the committee level and I think everyone is thinking about what it will be," Cicilline said. "But we're obviously going to wait until the evidence is referred to the Judiciary Committee." Lawmakers and aides tell CNN that the focus -- at the moment -- is on the investigation itself with the House Intelligence, Oversight and Foreign Affairs committees taking the lead in almost-daily interviews with witnesses they hope can shed light on why nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine was withheld and whether Trump used his office to garner political favors from the new government there. But for members not part of those investigations, there is plenty of speculation about how to approach the next phase of the process: drafting the formal Articles of Impeachment.

"It is reasonable to say that it would be staffer malpractice not to have some of this stuff ready with the facts we already have in hand," one Democratic aide told CNN. Rank-and-file members are also taking a closer look at exactly how to structure their articles -- reviewing the way both the Nixon and Clinton articles of impeachment were written with two divergent views developing within the caucus.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/24/politics/democrats-writing-articles-of-impeachment/index.html

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Democrats consider what articles of impeachment actually look like (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP
i'd recommend the kitchen sink approach dweller Oct 2019 #1
Keep It as Simple As Possible NonPC Oct 2019 #2
Here's the articles from the Nixon impeachment, adopted by the Judiciary Committee. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2019 #3
Thank you for the link! BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #4
I bet there will be many, like Andrew Johnson many. nt yaesu Oct 2019 #5
For starters MissMillie Oct 2019 #6

dweller

(23,643 posts)
1. i'd recommend the kitchen sink approach
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:03 PM
Oct 2019

hit him with everything they have cooking, whatever it takes to sink him ...


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NonPC

(306 posts)
2. Keep It as Simple As Possible
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:05 PM
Oct 2019

The more complex they make it, the more it will bog down and make it susceptible to attack from the Republican talking points. It needs to be fairly simple, so as most of Trump's dimwitted supporters can understand it. Probably won't sway 90% of them, but we'll take every convert happily.

3. Here's the articles from the Nixon impeachment, adopted by the Judiciary Committee.
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 08:33 PM
Oct 2019

It never got to a vote by the full House - Nixon resigned first - but this gives an idea of what they look like when the President has violated his oath.

https://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachment

MissMillie

(38,562 posts)
6. For starters
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 11:48 AM
Oct 2019

Every time a subpoena was ignored, that is obstruction of justice, and a failure to uphold Congress's constitutional duty to conduct oversight.

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