For Impeachment Witnesses, Testifying Can Cost $15,000
Source: New York Times
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WASHINGTON As a parade of State Department officials began trooping to Capitol Hill this month to testify in the impeachment inquiry imperiling President Trump, officials from the departments union dispatched an appeal to its nearly 17,000 members. Send money, they pleaded.
For the second time since Mr. Trump took office, an investigation into his conduct has set off a scramble across Washington for lawyers to represent witnesses and for the money to pay them. This time, instead of high-rolling players in Mr. Trumps 2016 campaign, many of the witnesses are career government workers who helped shape or carry out policy toward Ukraine.
On civil-servant salaries, they have racked up bills of $15,000 or more for lawyers who can guide them through the morning-to-dusk sessions before congressional inquisitors. Already caught in a struggle between two branches of government, many are now worried about how to pay for legal advice that can cost $750 to $1,500 an hour. We have never faced a comparable situation, said Eric Rubin, a senior American diplomat who runs the union, the American Foreign Service Association. Our colleagues are facing unprecedented legal bills. He said his association has received a steady stream of donations, mostly in small amounts, since asking for them on Oct. 8.
The impeachment inquiry has some pluses for lawyers: opportunities to wrestle with high-profile legal issues like the limits of executive privilege and to reap free publicity escorting clients through a gantlet of cameras to the Capitol chambers where depositions are being conducted. At the least, they get a front-row seat in an inquiry that has gripped the nation. But a moneymaker it is not. Even if a client pays in full, representing a single congressional witness is far less profitable than the corporate work that is the lifeblood of many Washington law firms. I dont think anybody takes these cases because they are lucrative. They are not, said Robert Luskin, who represents Gordon D. Sondland, a wealthy Republican donor-turned-ambassador and one of the inquirys few deep-pocketed witnesses. You do these cases because you believe in the client or you believe in the cause or you believe in the process, not because they are financially rewarding.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/us/politics/impeachment-lawyers.html
This is a mess. Granted, the folks coming in who are non-appointees are most likely working in the D.C. metro HQ offices where their salaries (based on the Locality Pay scale for that area) are higher than many other parts of the country. However they would generally be maxed out at GS-14s (maybe 15) if not part of the SES scale, and the cost of living down there (at least housing-wise) is ridiculous.
Of course with the wealthy ones like Sondland, it would be no big deal.
mpcamb
(2,871 posts)Perseus
(4,341 posts)And he should, unless he is completely stupid, he should have known that his actions supporting the Ukraine deal was illegal.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)du_grad
(221 posts)[link:http://www.afsa.org/donate|
"AFSA's Legal Defense Fund was created in 2007 to provide financial assistance to members in cases involving issues of significant institutional importance to the Foreign Service. It was named after the late Richard Scissors, a longtime AFSA staff member whose expertise in labor-management issues was crucial to many an AFSA member during his tenure. Donations to the LDF are not tax deductible."
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)two in the front are each carrying small cases while the guy on the right (my right as I view the pic) just behind the two front figures is carrying a much larger bag/case. Maybe his case only holds a clean
shirt and clean underwear but I bet he's earning his legal fees!
Nitram
(22,822 posts)Which one's the patriot?
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)His spokescreature actually called that a cost-saving measure.
Well it probably was, because you know Trump never read a word of the Post or any other legitimate newspaper.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)WaPo is free for government and military employees -
http://money.com/money/4671856/get-free-subscription-to-the-washington-post/
https://helpcenter.washingtonpost.com/hc/en-us/articles/115007248227-Start-a-free-subscription-with-a-valid-gov-or-mil-email-address
(and schools with .edu email addresses actually have a discounted rate vs free as an update)
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)Massacure
(7,525 posts)I'm not at all familiar with the justice system, but when a witness gets subpoenaed to answer questions, are they in any kind of legal jeopardy?
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)you are doing so under oath, so you can be charged with lying to Congress/making false statements and referred for criminal prosecution, so it's good to have a lawyer who is cognizant of that process to help limit any potential liability. With the little guy, they rarely go that far to prosecute because there's such a high bar to prove intent to mislead, but for the heavy hitters, they often do pursue charges and in fact they did so with Michael Cohen.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)truthfully, and then walk out when it was over. Truth is not prosecutable.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)Except when facing a "judge" and/or "jury" with an agenda. And then after many years in prison, your "truth" is finally acknowledged and you are released, with a significant chunk of your life taken from you and ruined.
https://www.innocenceproject.org/justice-2018/