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BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:09 PM Oct 2019

Microsoft Wins Pentagon's $10 Billion JEDI Contract, Thwarting Amazon

Last edited Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: New York Times



SAN FRANCISCO — The Department of Defense on Friday awarded a $10 billion technology contract to Microsoft, in what was a closely scrutinized contest after President Trump said he might intervene in the hard-fought commercial battle. The 10-year contract for the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure, known by the cinematic acronym JEDI, had set off a showdown among Amazon, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle and Google. Intended to transform and modernize the military’s cloud computing systems, the contract is considered more important than its size because of its centrality to new forms of war. Much of the military operates on 1980s and 1990s computer systems, and the Pentagon has spent billions of dollars trying to make them talk to one another.

The decision was a surprise because Amazon had been considered a front-runner to win the contract. But that was before Mr. Trump began his criticisms of Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon and, for the past several years, the owner of The Washington Post — a news organization the president refers to as the “Amazon Washington Post.” A speechwriter for former Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, who over time became an enthusiast of moving Pentagon operations to the cloud, alleged in a book scheduled for publication next week that Mr. Trump had wanted to “screw” Amazon and give the contract to another company. In public, Mr. Trump said there were other “great companies” he wanted to make sure had a chance at the contract.

The issue quickly became radioactive at the Pentagon. The new defense secretary, Mark T. Esper, at first said he wanted to take several months to review the issue and then, a few days ago, recused himself from the bidding. He said he could not participate because his son worked for another competitor for the contract. As recently as this month, the betting was that Microsoft would, at most, get only part of the contract — and that the Pentagon, like many companies, would use multiple suppliers for its cloud services. Microsoft was considered in the lead for other government cloud programs, including an intelligence contract. Its Azure cloud program is considered a worthy competitor, but only recently has Microsoft opened enough classified server facilities to be able to handle data on the scale of the Pentagon contract.

“This contract will address critical and urgent unmet warfighter requirements for modern cloud infrastructure at all three classification levels delivered out to the tactical edge,” the Defense Department said in a statement on Friday. Microsoft did not immediately have a comment. Amazon, which calls its cloud platform Amazon Web Services, or AWS, said in a statement that it was surprised by the decision. “AWS is the clear leader in cloud computing, and a detailed assessment purely on the comparative offerings clearly led to a different conclusion,” Drew Herdener, a spokesman for Amazon, said. “We remain deeply committed to continuing to innovate for the new digital battlefield where security, efficiency, resiliency, and scalability of resources can be the difference between success and failure.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/technology/dod-jedi-contract.html



Original article -

The Department of Defense has awarded a $10 billion technology contract to Microsoft, in what was a closely scrutinized and political contest after President Trump said he might intervene in the hard-fought commercial battle.

The decision, announced Friday, was a surprise because Amazon had been considered a front-runner to win the 10-year contract for the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure, known by the cinematic acronym JEDI. But that was before President Trump began his criticisms of Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon and, for the past several years, the owner of The Washington Post — a news organization the president refers to as the “Amazon Washington Post.”

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rpannier

(24,330 posts)
6. You know they're likely not going to be able to prove it
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:51 PM
Oct 2019

1. Microsoft is likely quite able to do the project effectively So unless you can show they're not qualified to do it, the bid is legitimate and deserving of the contract as well
2. The thinking at the Defense Dept could easily have been, "Both are qualified, it's less a problem if we give it to Microsoft." That doesn't make it interfering in contract bidding, it is a calculated decision by the Pentagon.
Unless you can show that il douche called the Pentagon, or met with members of the Pentagon to pressure them, it's a non-starter

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
5. "Pentagon has spent billions of dollars trying to make them talk to one another."
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:49 PM
Oct 2019


Undoubtedly more billions to get the new setup to work....correctly...

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
7. And speaking about that, I literally just saw this article yesterday -
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 07:57 PM
Oct 2019
Update Complete: U.S. Nuclear Weapons No Longer Need Floppy Disks



By Liam Stack

Oct. 24, 2019

Rest easy, people of Earth: The United States’ nuclear arsenal will no longer rely on a computer system that uses eight-inch floppy disks, in an update the Defense Department has cast as a step into the future but which some observers might be surprised to learn was required at all. The system, called Strategic Automated Command and Control System, or SACCS, “is still in use today but no longer uses floppy disks,” David Faggard, a spokesman for the Air Force Global Strike Command, which manages the Air Force portion of the arsenal, said in an email. “Air Force Global Strike Command is committed to modernizing for the future.”

The update is part of a broader overhaul of the United States’ atomic weapons that began under President Barack Obama and has continued under President Trump. The move away from floppy disks was completed in June but was not widely reported at the time. It was reported last week by C4ISRNET, a website that covers military technology.

“The Air Force completed a replacement of the aging SACCS floppy drives with a highly secure solid-state digital storage solution in June,” Justin Oakes, a spokesman for the Eighth Air Force, said in an email. “This replacement effort exponentially increased message storage capacity and operator response times for critical nuclear command and control message receipt and processing.”

The role of floppy disks in the command and control operations of the nation’s nuclear arsenal was highlighted in a 2016 report from the United States Government Accountability Office. It said the disks were used in a system that “coordinates the operational functions of the nation’s nuclear forces.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/nuclear-weapons-floppy-disks.html


No comment.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
11. "highly secure solid-state digital storage solution"
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:03 AM
Oct 2019

A boeing employee left their pc in the back of their car while shopping...It was stolen..had thousands of employees personal information in it...I know because the company paid for 3 years of surveillance for everyone...experion? Something like that..It would alert you when bank transactions were taking place..past debt history..etc..

Happened twice....

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
12. At my agency, we have had employees and contractors
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:18 AM
Oct 2019

have laptops stolen from their GOVs. But a long time ago, we had encrypted laptop hard drives to at least help to thwart getting info from them. Of course a hard drive really wasn't as much of a problem as something else - the jump drives/USB sticks.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
13. One of the duties
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:43 AM
Oct 2019

I had in addition to my regular job, was being in charge of the laptops that were used when someone in the branch travelled. It was often difficult to get the military to return them as they all thought they were worthy of having them fulltime. Then you had the users who never changed the password from the default one.

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
16. I remember the days without PCs at all
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 09:11 AM
Oct 2019

and then finally we got a couple 8086s - like 1 per group, and built up from there to replace all the desktops with laptops after a couple decades.

Eventually the machines had smartcard readers (we had PIV cards and I understand that DOD folks had CAC cards) - and getting those secure-access systems to recognize/talk to each other continued to be a piece of work. But at least the PIV just required a PIN. But I had a million other systems I needed to access that required a password that changed every 90 days and each system wanted "x" number of characters as a min or max, and some accepted and/or required one set of symbols but not others as part of a password, whereas other systems allowed all the symbols but might require 15 or more characters as minimum, etc. (and no repeats or similar PWs over a period of 10 PW changes). It was a living nightmare.

Thank goodness I am retired.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
17. We didn't have computers at our desks either
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:11 PM
Oct 2019

when I started. We had 4-5 terminals that you have to stand in line and wait for if you wanted updated inventory, contracts, backorders, etc. Then we got TP1000s that were much faster, but still had to get in line to use them and you had to leave at least one so the clerks could post the status of hot requisitions we recieved twice a day. We did our buy calculations on glorified adding machines that used magnetic strip cards. Those were the fun days, though, because we weren't locked into automated business processes.

iluvtennis

(19,863 posts)
8. As someone who worked in high tech in software engineering, I would have like to have seen the
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 08:28 PM
Oct 2019

contract split between 3 of these vendors. You select one as the main integrator and the other two as subordinates. My rationale is that with multiple companies involves they can review the design and the development of each other software to come up with a better/more robust software product. It's the old "two heads are better than one" approach.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
14. That wouldn't work well with DoD, imo
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:45 AM
Oct 2019

DoD is so sprawling, having to deal with more than 1 vendor would really make IT support too complicated.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
9. I guess you're talking about the Microsoft that I allow to have full access to my computers?
Fri Oct 25, 2019, 09:23 PM
Oct 2019

Yeah, I trust them.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
18. I wonder if this means MS will now be forced to drug-test their employees....
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 01:25 PM
Oct 2019

I haven't worked at MS in over 20 years, but the talk back when I worked there was that accepting a government contract (specifically a Pentagon contract) would mandate MS becoming a "Drug Free Workplace" enforced with drug testing.

Maybe that's no longer true, or maybe they've been drug testing for years like most US companies anyway (as I said, it's been 20 years), but the Microsoft that I remember would have had an employee riot on its hands if they had accepted a Pentagon contract.

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