They have turned the U.S. back into the "old west".......

Thankfully most of the places we go have signs saying "no firearms", one steakhouse we love lets them in and they are like "see how big my gun is", proud to be able to show they have small equipment and need a gun to feel masculine. We hardly go there at all anymore. It is a choice we make.

And still gets its share of mass shooters.

There really needs to be a comprehensive study of shooters to learn more about the motives, indicators and what gun laws would have the most effect.

Open carry out not doesn’t seem to really have as much effect as we’d like.

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house parties for Halloween or Sunday night football

schools (all of them)

open air concerts next to high rise hotels

movie theaters

Walmarts

churches/mosques/synagogues

oh, and any place where you are employed.

(high school football games, but I assumed schools covered that)

shopping malls

cars on freeways

Friday night HS football games

churches/mosques/synagogues

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No license, no training necessary, just grab your gun and go. Goes right along with the repeal of auto inspections which are now on the honor system. Soon: Raising the speed limit to 80!

Lots of untrained imbeciles walking around with guns in their pants pockets and open purses. I hate it. There sure are a lot of Shootings at Walmarts across the country and now that they have eliminated cashiers, they corral customers into a one entrance one exit self checkout circle.

I hate it, too.

You would think, but no.

All that savings goes to profit.

Yikes.

That market is “fraught with abuse.” (Which means you can find someone to sell you a sticker no matter how unsafe your car is.)

NY should try it.

So that this is actually in some way related to the new law.

(Otherwise, all we have is called abductive reasoning. And witch is the same weight as a duck.)

[link:https://kfor.com/2019/11/18/investigation-underway-after-reported-shooting-at-duncan-walmart/|]

As gun violence is normalized in this country it's taking more and more carnage to get us to notice. I'm very fearful that this normalization of gun deaths in the US will keep us from ever passing meaningful gun control legislation.

shooter purchased the gun, ammo and licence this morning.

and that's being phased out also.

What licensing are you talking about?

"License" is "correct" American English.

thread at DU about that one. It's becoming so routine that we are on the verge of being completely desensitized to it. Which is exactly what ghouls like LaPierre are hoping for.

there were threads about the shooting but we've all become so desensitized and used to it that it doesn't surprise anyone.

But there wasn't much information beyond the original link.

Sadly, neither of the two latest incidents seem random from early indications.

Wrong demographic, wrong purpose.

If it's Asian gang violence, that reflects badly on a community and doesn't serve the rhetorical goal. And if it's "community" internal, then others are safe.

If it's somebody going after some other particular person--whether at a football game, homecoming party, or game-watch party, suddenly there's less interest. If they're after "John" then the rest of us aren't nearly at the same level of risk.

Last year a girl was shot while her mother was driving on the freeway. It was national news when they were looking for a white guy in a red pickup. When it turned into a case of a black guy who was out after a particular other black guy the story sank like a stone.

Later in your comment you say that when another shooter is found to be black and seeking a black victim, the story “sank like a stone”. Is it your view that stories of black criminals are under-reported?

It used to be anyway. It's been a while.

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that spills beyond the man and woman involved to family, friends, and co-workers.

IOW, violence against women and mass shootings are closely related, but violence against women is still not on the country's front burner.

for our right to be shot dead anywhere at any time by a deranged law-abiding gun-owner