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brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:26 PM Dec 2019

Officials: Jersey City shooting was 'targeted attack on the Jewish kosher deli'

Source: Politico

JERSEY CITY — Two people armed with long rifles “targeted” a kosher deli that was at the center of a massive shootout Tuesday, opening fire as soon as they walked inside the store, authorities said Wednesday morning.

The attack, which left three civilians dead inside the store, would have likely continued if two police officers hadn’t been blocks away and responded immediately when they heard the gunshots, officials said.

The news come as Gov. Phil Murphy said he spoke Tuesday night with President Donald Trump and as the state attorney general took charge of the investigation.

Authorities had initially indicated the shootout, during which both attackers died, was not related to terrorism and may have been tied to a prior crime. The incident came after the suspects were believed to have shot and killed a police officer in a nearby cemetery just minutes before.


Read more: https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2019/12/11/officials-jersey-city-shooting-was-targeted-attack-on-the-jewish-kosher-deli-1231409



Newark Star-Ledger

Man, woman reportedly ID’d as attackers in fatal gun battle at kosher market

Two people who unleashed a furious gun battle in Jersey City Tueday, killing a police officer and three people inside a kosher grocery store, have been identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham, according to a report by NBCNewYork.com that cited law enforcement sources.

Anderson was a onetime follower of the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, a theology dating to the 19th Century that asserts African Americans are God’s true chosen people, according to the NBC report.

Police found online postings connected to Anderson’s social page with anti-police and anti-Jewish writings, the report said. Investigators are looking to see if Anderson himself posted that material, the report said, citing four sources in law enforcement.


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Officials: Jersey City shooting was 'targeted attack on the Jewish kosher deli' (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2019 OP
So, this was a domestic terrorist attack against dware Dec 2019 #1
Yup. Thanks to Trump, Putin, and the NRA. lagomorph777 Dec 2019 #4
Hear, hear! BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #10
The Trump administration has completely failed us on domestic terrorism IronLionZion Dec 2019 #13
Earlier articles speculated that this was a by-product of a drug deal gone bad. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #2
In these types of situations... nycbos Dec 2019 #3
Suspects identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham. jalan48 Dec 2019 #5
Another hate crime/domestic terrorist attack. 58Sunliner Dec 2019 #6
another act by Nazis. demigoddess Dec 2019 #7
Yeah, I hate Black Hebrew Israelite Nazis n/t MosheFeingold Dec 2019 #8
No-they were not Nazis. 58Sunliner Dec 2019 #15
Just as scummy as nazis. A violent undesirable is a violent undesirable is a violent undesirable... Progressive Jones Dec 2019 #16
Yes. Religious extremists are dangerous like white supremacists. 58Sunliner Dec 2019 #18
I don't understand how Nazis were even relevant to this crime. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #17
I was simply pointing out that any racial/religious terrorist is the same as any other. Progressive Jones Dec 2019 #19
True, but no one was arguing otherwise. jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #20
My bad. I thought you were. Sorry. nt Progressive Jones Dec 2019 #22
Statistically, terrorism favors the white supremacists/extremist in the US. 58Sunliner Dec 2019 #23
Black Hebrew Israelites were at that rally with the Covington h.s. student vs. Native american IcyPeas Dec 2019 #9
The authorities incorrectly said their fellow officer was killed by the suspects. Mc Mike Dec 2019 #11
Time to ban anyone from David Anderson and Francine Graham's country IronLionZion Dec 2019 #12
The terrorists seem to be associated with this guy and the Yawehs. Marcuse Dec 2019 #14
Unlikely. As dazed and confused as Black Trump supporters are.... jcmaine72 Dec 2019 #21

dware

(12,449 posts)
1. So, this was a domestic terrorist attack against
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 12:38 PM
Dec 2019

Jews?

Religion, responsible for more deaths throughout history than anything else.

BigmanPigman

(51,638 posts)
10. Hear, hear!
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 06:09 PM
Dec 2019

Religion has done far more harm than good. I bet it has killed as many people (directly and indirectly) than all the plagues and famines have.

IronLionZion

(45,547 posts)
13. The Trump administration has completely failed us on domestic terrorism
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:53 AM
Dec 2019

and done jack shit to protect Americans from being killed by other Americans. Dude spews anti-semitic stereotypes in his speeches.



keithbvadu2

(36,949 posts)
2. Earlier articles speculated that this was a by-product of a drug deal gone bad.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 01:24 PM
Dec 2019

Earlier articles speculated that this was a by-product of a drug deal gone bad.

It sounded like a lot of ammo for a drug deal.

jalan48

(13,894 posts)
5. Suspects identified as David Anderson and Francine Graham.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 02:01 PM
Dec 2019

The official (law enforcement) said the names of the two suspects were David Anderson and Francine Graham. Mr. Anderson appeared to have a connection to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement, which is designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a legal advocacy group that tracks such movements.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/nyregion/jersey-city-shooting.html

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
17. I don't understand how Nazis were even relevant to this crime.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:24 AM
Dec 2019

Perhaps the person you're responding to simply made an honest mistake in being a bit too hasty by drawing that conclusion. After all, it's not as if Nazis are incapable of commiting such an atrocity.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
19. I was simply pointing out that any racial/religious terrorist is the same as any other.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:31 PM
Dec 2019

There is no difference between terrorists. Skin color and ideology are meaningless.
No difference to me, for instance, between an ISIS fighter and Klansman, a neo nazi, an anti-US government militia member, or one of the scumbags who shot up that shop in Jersey City.
They are all deserving of a hole in the ground once they pull that trigger, or detonate that bomb.
They are also deserving of having fear for their lives struck into them even before they act.

58Sunliner

(4,413 posts)
23. Statistically, terrorism favors the white supremacists/extremist in the US.
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 01:26 AM
Dec 2019

I do wonder if through the millennia, religion isn't responsible for more deaths worldwide.

IcyPeas

(21,910 posts)
9. Black Hebrew Israelites were at that rally with the Covington h.s. student vs. Native american
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 05:31 PM
Dec 2019

Last year. Never heard of them before that incident.

BHI start at 1:09 in this video.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
11. The authorities incorrectly said their fellow officer was killed by the suspects.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 06:52 PM
Dec 2019

Gave the actual killer a head start getting away with it, as well as obscuring the anti semitic nature of the attack. The whole story is off.

IronLionZion

(45,547 posts)
12. Time to ban anyone from David Anderson and Francine Graham's country
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 08:44 AM
Dec 2019

We should have never allowed such people to come here hundreds of years ago.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
21. Unlikely. As dazed and confused as Black Trump supporters are....
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:45 PM
Dec 2019

...the Black Hebrew Israelites are in a league of their own in terms of batshit crazy racial supremacy.

I heard one on a street corner once claim that every great historical figure was a Black Hebrew, including Queen Elizabeth I and the Wright brothers, but that the "white devil" has rewritten the actual history in order to steal all their great accomplishments.The Black Hebrew Israelites might actually be the one extremist hate group too crazy and hateful even for Trump.

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