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brooklynite

(94,757 posts) Wed Dec 11, 2019, 04:20 PM Dec 2019

Brexit Is A Problem For Labour In Northern Seats, But Candidates Say Corbyn Is An Even Bigger One

Source: BuzzFeed

On Tuesday, in a leaked recording, shadow health minister Jonathan Ashworth was heard telling a former friend that the situation for Labour is “dire” due to a combination of “Corbyn and Brexit.”

“Outside of the city seats, if you’re in small-town midlands and north it’s abysmal out there, they don’t like Johnson, but they can’t stand Corbyn and they think Labour’s blocked Brexit.”

“I’ve been going round these national places,” he added. “It’s dire for Labour… It’s dire…” Ashworth said he had been trying to help his colleagues by “banging on about the NHS in their areas for them.” He continued: “It’s awful for them, and it’s the combination of Corbyn and Brexit.”

Ashworth’s words are supported by many of the Labour candidates and voters that BuzzFeed News has spoken to in the North, and by independent research.

Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahalothman/labour-north-brexit-corbyn

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Brexit Is A Problem For Labour In Northern Seats, But Candidates Say Corbyn Is An Even Bigger One (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2019 OP

The Labour Party's Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #1

This is utter shit amcgrath Dec 2019 #2

Trump has large cheering crowds wherever he goes... brooklynite Dec 2019 #3

Somewhere in Hell ArizonaLib Dec 2019 #4

From what I'm reading, the polls are Iliyah Dec 2019 #5

After 1992, 2010, 2015 I don't trust the polls. mwooldri Dec 2019 #7

The SNP will take most if not all of the seats in Scotland. roamer65 Dec 2019 #6

Part of me wants the Tories wiped out in Scotland. NT mwooldri Dec 2019 #8

The recent Tory leader has promised to swim naked in Loch Ness if the SNP get over 50 seats from 59 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #10

Lotta pro-Brexit posts greenjar_01 Dec 2019 #9

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

1. The Labour Party's

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 04:45 PM

Dec 2019

largest image problem is their Leader.

amcgrath

(397 posts)

2. This is utter shit

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 04:56 PM

Dec 2019

Corbyn has been almost exclusively in the north for the past couple of weeks. Huge cheering crowds where ever he goes.

brooklynite

(94,757 posts)

3. Trump has large cheering crowds wherever he goes...

Reply to amcgrath (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 05:03 PM

Dec 2019

...doesn’t reflect the intent of the full breadth of voters.

Do you believe Corby is going to win tomorrow?

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)

4. Somewhere in Hell

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 05:05 PM

Dec 2019

Enoch Powell is celebrating.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)

5. From what I'm reading, the polls are

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 05:25 PM

Dec 2019

tightening.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)

7. After 1992, 2010, 2015 I don't trust the polls.

Reply to Iliyah (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 07:25 PM

Dec 2019

But one thing I can say: if Boris wins a majority, Corbyn will go - especially if Boris wins a big majority. If there is a hung parliament it will depend on how much Labour loses - if the LD's and Nationalists (SNP, PC) pick up lots of seats then Corbyn might be forced to resign to get a government in place - that is if a rainbow coalition can be formed. Even Sinn Fein is trying to help stop Brexit by standing aside in some seats so that either the SDLP or the Alliance can win (thus increasing the actual majority needed as Sinn Fein will never take their seats in Westminster).

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

6. The SNP will take most if not all of the seats in Scotland.

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 07:24 PM

Dec 2019

I think it will be a Con minority government.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)

8. Part of me wants the Tories wiped out in Scotland. NT

Reply to roamer65 (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 07:26 PM

Dec 2019

muriel_volestrangler

(101,385 posts)

10. The recent Tory leader has promised to swim naked in Loch Ness if the SNP get over 50 seats from 59

Reply to roamer65 (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 08:40 PM

Dec 2019

Ruth Davidson, the former Scottish Conservative leader, has promised to swim naked in Loch Ness if the SNP win 50 seats at the election. Writing in the Daily Telegraph, she said conditions were markedly different from 2015, when the SNP won 56 seats, and that she did not expect them to reach 50. In 2017 the SNP won 35 seats. Davidson wrote:

I will happily wager to strip naked on the banks of Loch Ness and subject myself to a Hogmanay wild swimming session should such a result occur, safe in the knowledge that my modesty (and others’ eyeballs) will remain unmolested.

The YouGov MRP poll released last night, which is thought to be one of the best guides to what might happen in the election, suggested the SNP would win 41 seats.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/dec/11/general-election-poll-suggests-tory-lead-narrows-as-campaign-enters-last-day-live?page=with:block-5df0b86b8f08eda98155efc9#block-5df0b86b8f08eda98155efc9

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)

9. Lotta pro-Brexit posts

Reply to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Dec 11, 2019, 08:37 PM

Dec 2019

With no commentary.

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