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turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 06:51 PM Dec 2019

FAA probes Boeing 737 MAX production, ex-manager warns of 'a factory in chaos'

Source: Reuters

Business News
December 11, 2019 / 6:10 AM / Updated 18 minutes ago

David Shepardson, Eric M. Johnson 4 Min Read

WASHINGTON/SEATTLE (Reuters) - The U.S. Federal Aviation Administration said on Wednesday it was investigating production issues at Boeing Co’s 737 MAX factory after an ex-manager warned that schedule pressure and worker fatigue were raising safety risks.

The manager, Ed Pierson, drew a link between faulty Angle of Attack sensors in two recent 737 MAX crashes that killed 346 people and what he called a “chaotic and alarming state” inside Boeing’s factory that undermined quality and safety.

“It is alarming that these sensors failed on multiple flights mere months after the airplanes were manufactured in a factory experiencing frequent wiring problems and functional test issues,” Pierson said at a hearing before U.S. lawmakers.

“I witnessed a factory in chaos,” he said.

At the hearing, U.S. FAA chief Steve Dickson confirmed the agency will not approve Boeing’s grounded 737 MAX for flight before the end of 2019, citing a series of steps that still must be completed.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-airplane/faa-probes-boeing-737-max-production-ex-manager-warns-of-a-factory-in-chaos-idUSKBN1YF18G?il=0



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As someone who has worked on the aircraft production floor, and flight line as an A&P Technician.............even if you are building a plane on a military site or at the commercial site, the FAA is suppose to have someone at those sites to overseer what is going on....................so that there is no chaos................
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turbinetree

(24,726 posts)
2. I respectively disagree.........................
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 07:20 PM
Dec 2019

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this aircraft is and was the back bone to the aviation industry as a whole, just like the DC-9, B747 and others.

I have worked on every variant of this aircraft since it came into existence from 1967- forward..............I really liked working on that plane, for many reasons...............This aircraft set the stage for the B-757, B767, and yes the B-747.....................as to what happens in the cockpit and the flight mode...............................

People forget that when a 747 crashed into the mountain side in Japan, it was determined that the aft pressure bulkhead had a major flaw during a faulty repair and all the B-747 Boeing corrected the problem.......................
As a side note I worked on the DC9-30, where-by the aft pressure bulkhead needed to be repaired and the modernization of the landing gear and the pressure relief valve................................

There are many actors in this B-737 Max issue and they all need to be held accountable, but after everything is said and done, this plane will be the safest and most reliable aircraft in the air...............................

BannonsLiver

(16,499 posts)
7. It won't ever be that because of the engineering which is flawed.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 09:49 PM
Dec 2019

Btw, that poster was likely talking about the Max not other variants.

ga_girl

(183 posts)
8. Not quite correct on the 747 crash
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 10:38 PM
Dec 2019

That accident was caused when a defectively repaired aft pressure bulkhead failed. The bulkhead was damaged in a tail strike seven years earlier, and was improperly repaired by Boeing technicians. Also, I don't believe there's been a 747 fleet grounding.

Lonestarblue

(10,100 posts)
4. A plane that has been reengineered for profit rather than safety is not safe to fly.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 07:50 PM
Dec 2019

I would feel differently if engineers certified safety, but clearly it’s Boeing’s greedy CEO certifying safety, which I don’t believe. When the 737 Max returns to service, which it will regardless of safety issues, I will not be on it. I remember reading a few weeks ago that American Airlines flight attendants were also requesting not to fly on this plane. Boeing has created a mess, and unfortunately it’s a mess that costs lives.

summer_in_TX

(2,762 posts)
9. What I would really like to know is how Republicans'
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 01:33 AM
Dec 2019

hyper-focus on cutting the budget, with maneuvers like sequestration, may have led to staff cuts beyond the level of safety at the FAA. I don't know that happened. But I also don't know that it didn't.

I'd love some enterprising reporter to dig into that and let the public know one way or the other.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
10. I won't fly an airline that uses them. Nope. I'm sure many others feel the same.
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:19 AM
Dec 2019

I won't mention any airlines names (American, Southwest) that fly them.

Farmer-Rick

(10,216 posts)
12. When the Navy started contracting out base functions,
Thu Dec 12, 2019, 11:54 AM
Dec 2019

I noticed the first thing that got cut back was contracting officers, managers and monitors. Which leads to poor compliance by civilian contractors.

Also when corporations main function is to make a profit, they become less concerned about the quality and safety of their product. Bad quality products made with bad quality materials and poorly paid and trained workers, make more profit.

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