Army and Navy launch internal investigations into controversial hand gesture captured on video
Source: CNN
(CNN)The US Military and Naval academies on Sunday launched internal investigations after cadets and midshipmen were captured on ESPN's pre-game show for the Army-Navy game making a hand gesture that some are interpreting as white nationalist and others are interpreting as innocent.
In a statement Sunday night, the Military Academy -- commonly known as West Point -- said its investigation is looking into the "use of hand gestures by a few Cadets" during the broadcast before Saturday's game.
"The United States Military Academy is fully committed to developing leaders of character who embody the Army Values. I have appointed an Investigation Officer...to conduct an administrative investigation into the facts, circumstances, and intent of the Cadets in question," Lt. Gen. Darryl Williams, superintendent of the academy, said.
Cmdr. Alana Garas, a Naval Academy spokeswoman, said in a statement earlier Sunday that "U.S. Naval Academy officials have appointed a preliminary inquiry officer to conduct an internal investigation into the hand gestures made during the ESPN College GameDay broadcast prior to yesterday's Army-Navy game."
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/15/politics/navy-internal-investigation-hand-gesture-video/index.html
More here, including photograph:
https://www.tmz.com/2019/12/16/army-navy-football-white-power-hand-signals-signs-investigation/
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)I wonder if there is particular meaning that an African American cadet is sitting in front of the cadet giving the sign?
spike jones
(1,687 posts)And one cadet drops trash beside the one in front of him.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,244 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....protective of their reputations.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Submariner
(12,509 posts)The parents, and the political reps they gave big campaign contributions to for the reps recommendation to accept little Johnny or Susie in Annapolis and/or West Point, will them fight to get their racist spawn reinstated.
usaf-vet
(6,209 posts)I'm sure I've ended up with that configuration more than once in my life.
The last time was trying to scrap dried super glue off my thumb. If you use super glue during craft projects I'll bet you have done the same.
Video would probably clear up what was going on.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)More than one of them had glue stuck on their hand.
I would suggest you watch the video, widely posted here and on Twitter, before embarrassing yourself further.
usaf-vet
(6,209 posts)embarrassed by suggesting an alternative BASED ON THE STILL PHOTO.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)and get enlightened just how racist our military is.
USMC Vet
usaf-vet
(6,209 posts)When I served in the south during the mid-1960s. I lived in a barracks that was multi-racial. Additionally, I had noncitizen immigrants also serving and living in the barracks. On base at work in the NCO Club, I never felt racial tension. Off base, you had to be careful where you wandered but I personally never felt threatened. But of course, that was 50 years ago. When I left the south on discharge in 1969 and moved back north I thought I had seen and heard the last of racial hatred.
Sadly! Not so!
usaf-vet
(6,209 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)That news comes as no surprise.
George II
(67,782 posts)NCjack
(10,279 posts)IronLionZion
(45,532 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)usaf-vet
(6,209 posts)That was clearly an intended move. I'll bet that cadet is in a world of shit! or the honor code is now useless.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Count on it.
Igel
(35,359 posts)Looks like they can see the camera display to make sure the camera picks it up. But we knew that from the "Go Army, beat Navy" mini-banner that they had. And the way they would do something then sit up straight as though to say, "Not me, no sir!"
Now, *what* was intended is the question. Trolling ("here, I can piss you off, imbeciles, by making you go all a-twitter over a meaningless gesture!" or declaration of white power ("here, I'm going to show you that I think White Power's the way to go" .
Somehow, given the way they're playing to the camera and fooling around, it's hard to see the gesture as being dead serious or all that earnest.
Yesterday, when looking for a picture of this, I found four. Two showed the two cadets--the one in the video posted, then the female sitting next to him--making the gestures. Another screamed "look at the racism!" and showed a woman cadet with both hands up, fingers crossed. (Yes, the poster was so frantically trying to judge another that they seriously misunderstood a simple gesture). The fourth showed the gloved hand reaching between the two cadets in the video--dropping something, making some gesture, I can't make it out. Whatever it was, it had to be racist because racists were making it--and having concluded it was racist, well, there you go, proof they *were* racist.
Nitram
(22,890 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,725 posts)It's the taller guy beside him and the shorter man is the one who pulls that hand down.
IronLionZion
(45,532 posts)obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)no
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)same game, same day, same time.
Or maybe they had simply been together at a crafting party just before the game and got superglue on each other.
Mr.Bill
(24,326 posts)Nothing will happen.
TheFourthMind
(343 posts)This is where we're at. I think I'll stick my middle finger in someones face today, have someone take some video of it, and deny the obvious intent. Instead I'll say I was playing the "finger game." No need for anyone else to contribute anything! I'll be investigating myself and will then let you know what I meant by it. Meanwhile, I will claim it was a finger game or simply a well known gesture that few if anyone uses anymore which lets the world know "I'm ok."
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)wearing a maga hat instead of the traditional presidential cover.
Always divisive and always a campaign event!
Dishonorable discharges for the guilty!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)the cadet thinks he is at a basketball game
sign language for this announcer is an @## hole?
sign for we are going to kick navy's @$$?
the cadet is being held against his will?
any other lame excuses anyone can think of?
George II
(67,782 posts)Crowman2009
(2,499 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,466 posts)Have the plebes and the midshipmen been identified?