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Omaha Steve

(99,708 posts)
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 05:59 PM Jan 2020

Texas judge: Hospital can remove baby from life support

Source: AP

By JAMIE STENGLE

DALLAS (AP) — A Texas judge on Thursday sided with a hospital that plans to remove an 11-month-old girl from life support after her mother disagreed with the decision by doctors who say the infant is in pain and that her condition will never improve.

Trinity Lewis had asked Judge Sandee Bryan Marion to issue an injunction in Tarrant County district court to ensure that Cook Children’s Medical Center doesn’t end her daughter Tinslee Lewis’ life-sustaining treatment. Texas Right to Life, an anti-abortion group that opposes the “10-day rule” and has been advocating for Tinslee, said the girl’s mother will appeal the judge’s decision.

Doctors at the Fort Worth hospital had planned to remove Tinslee from life support Nov. 10 after invoking Texas’ “10-day rule,” which can be employed when a family disagrees with doctors who say life-sustaining treatment should be stopped. The law stipulates that if the hospital’s ethics committee agrees with doctors, treatment can be withdrawn after 10 days if a new provider can’t be found to take the patient.

In a statement issued by Texas Right to Life, Lewis said she was “heartbroken” over the judge’s decision. “I feel frustrated because anyone in that courtroom would want more time just like I do if Tinslee were their baby,” she said.



This Nov. 8, 2019 photo provided by Texas Right to Life shows Tinslee Lewis. On Thursday, Jan. 2, 2020, a Texas judge sided with a hospital that plans to remove the 11-month-old girl from life support after her mother disagreed with the decision by doctors who say the infant is in pain and that her condition will never improve. (Courtesy of Texas Right to Life via AP)


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Texas judge: Hospital can remove baby from life support (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2020 OP
This bit... irisblue Jan 2020 #1
That is really brutal PatSeg Jan 2020 #2
I can't imagine a parent being so selfish SharonClark Jan 2020 #12
I can't imagine PatSeg Jan 2020 #13
Can't even imagine moreland01 Jan 2020 #3
It's happened quite a few times now. catrose Jan 2020 #6
Saw it on the news this evening. LiberalFighter Jan 2020 #4
Never had to be involved with this with a child. TNNurse Jan 2020 #5
Do you have any suggestions for how to best handle the wording for this in an advance directive? JudyM Jan 2020 #16
Texas Right to Life can put their money where their mouth is to give her continuing care. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #7
Quick edit for clarity ... Jopin Klobe Jan 2020 #8
it's a non-profit hospital. mopinko Jan 2020 #9
Wrong obamanut2012 Jan 2020 #11
You really should self delete this dware Jan 2020 #15
Hope this isn't a redux of Jahi McMath Jake Stern Jan 2020 #10
Just awful... LudwigPastorius Jan 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jan 2020 #17

irisblue

(33,022 posts)
1. This bit...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jan 2020

"Tinslee has been at Cook Children’s since her premature birth. The hospital said she has a rare heart defect and suffers from chronic lung disease and severe chronic high blood pressure. She hasn’t come off a ventilator since going into respiratory arrest in early July and requires full respiratory and cardiac support, deep sedation and to be medically paralyzed. The hospital said doctors believe she’s suffering."



The poor child and mother

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
2. That is really brutal
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:49 PM
Jan 2020

I can see both sides and I completely understand a parent's reluctance to let their baby go.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
12. I can't imagine a parent being so selfish
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 10:24 PM
Jan 2020

that she would want her child to have such a brutal, painful, and deteriorating existence.

PatSeg

(47,586 posts)
13. I can't imagine
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 11:24 PM
Jan 2020

what it must like to have to make such a decision. No one can if they haven't had to do it.

moreland01

(742 posts)
3. Can't even imagine
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jan 2020

being in this decision chain. Heartbreaking for all involved. Reminiscent of Terri Schiavo. In that case, I felt the husband had the right to decide (not the parents). In this case, the parents need to make the decision. It's sad that Texas law, a judge and doctors will make the decision for them. Sucks all around.

catrose

(5,073 posts)
6. It's happened quite a few times now.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jan 2020

It's a law from Gov G W Bush days, and the state has removed people from life support whose family wanted more time for their loved one. The cases I remember are another case of a hopelessly damaged baby, an elderly man in a coma, and a young woman dying of cancer (in a religious hospital--Baylor) who wanted to die in her mother's arms, but the hospital wouldn't wait for her mother to arrive from Africa.

LiberalFighter

(51,084 posts)
4. Saw it on the news this evening.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jan 2020

I'm not sure the mother understands the pain and suffering the infant is going thru for naught.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
5. Never had to be involved with this with a child.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 07:15 PM
Jan 2020

But I do have experience with futile care in adults. It is awful and hard on everyone.

But there are situations where continuing care is indeed futile. The patient has no input and the medical professionals and family are left with terrible decisions. I have participated in getting a family to understand that we are not going to heal and not going to get well and leave room. I watched so many doctors and nurses avoid direct questions or give vague answers. I made people cry at times, but I never lied to them. That is an extra level of cruelty on top of what they are having to accept.

People do die from what is wrong with them. A life in ICU is not good for the patient. It is usually painful and messy and none of those treatments are without side effects.

Keeping the facts from someone is cruelty. Helping them to see the truth is the job.

And yes, I understand that some will never accept it even when the medical professionals do their job well.

JudyM

(29,274 posts)
16. Do you have any suggestions for how to best handle the wording for this in an advance directive?
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 10:20 AM
Jan 2020

We’re looking at this for my mother now and are not really satisfied with how general the typical wording is... interested in whether your experience might have given you any ideas about what to specify...?

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
7. Texas Right to Life can put their money where their mouth is to give her continuing care.
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jan 2020

The supposed Right-to-Lifers did not care when living baby Sun Hudson was deliberately killed because he was an inconvenience to the state back in 1995.

Republican governor, Republican Prez.

Texas Right to Life can put their money where their mouth is to give her continuing care.

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
8. Quick edit for clarity ...
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 07:32 PM
Jan 2020

"The law stipulates that if the for profit hospital’s for profit ethics committee agrees with for profit doctors, for profit treatment can be withdrawn ..." ...

... "for profit" ...

dware

(12,429 posts)
15. You really should self delete this
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 09:49 AM
Jan 2020

as the hospital is a non profit.

Pretty obvious what your agenda here is.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
10. Hope this isn't a redux of Jahi McMath
Thu Jan 2, 2020, 08:06 PM
Jan 2020

I'm a parent but still can't imagine being such a selfish ghoul that I would allow my child to suffer like that for the benefit of my feelings.

LudwigPastorius

(9,170 posts)
14. Just awful...
Fri Jan 3, 2020, 12:27 AM
Jan 2020

Another article I read says that she goes into cardiac arrest often and must be resuscitated (presumably with a defibrillator) 2 to 3 times a day...all while being completely paralyzed.

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

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