He makes us sound like a hostile force extorting another country... that can't be right though.

That'll bring stability to the region. Stability like they've never seen before!

But it's someone standing up to him. And he hates that. Everyone MUST cowtow to him. He prizes loyalty to him over anything else on the planet. He doesn't care about anything else.

learn this, the better for everyone involved. He'd dump the party under the bus the minute they become inconvenient to him. And no one else matters to him at all.

dude, git a new vocabulary already!

He's clueless as to geopolitics, which makes him all the more more dangerous.

It's all about him and his attempts to convince himself and his base he's a stronger man than Obama. I don't think he gives a damn about the price our troops will pay for his foolish ego padding. I know he couldn't care less for potential suffering of the citizens of the ME.

They have Russia and China who would love to buy Iraqi oil and become Iraq's new best buddies. And if Trump tries to say that we won't leave unless Iraq pays us for the air base we become invaders and everything at that base becomes a target. He just doesn't get it that he is not King of the World!

Piss of the Iraqis will unite them with Iran like he's never seen.

I'm suspicious there are no cooler heads left in the WH to temper him. He's well and truly now surrounded himself with only those who fear him and refuse to go against him, or agree with him wholeheartedly. The GOP in US Senate is in the same camp as those left in the WH. None dare cross him for fear of reprisals, and others see their lifetime goals being achieved if they let him run his course.

I may be being fatalistic, but it seems as if the worlds worst nightmares of Trump in office are coming to fruition.

Iraq is sovereign country they can decide if they want us here or not.

Trump gave a base in Syria to Putin for free when Trump ran away.

It didn't cost billions but it's a start.

Either that or release the kraken ...er pee tape.

No one would care about it.

So very much worse has come to light and his GOP lineman are still blocking like pros for him

This weakens the US a bunch. Another alliance trashed, trillions of US tax dollars thrown away. Thousands of American service people’s deaths pissed away. The world looking at us like we are backwards underwear-on-head idiots. Putin must feel like he’s won the damned lottery with this trump move. Probably making a fruit basket as we speak.

Thinks he can do anything to anybody anytime.

For now...Nancy is watching.

Our invading them, killing their people, destroying their infrastructure, demolishing their livelihoods, looting their cultural sites and then subsequently squatting on their soil?

The certainly never asked for our interference and owe us nothing. We aren't exactly invited guests there.

No more than Israel paid a dime to have the new embassy built in Jerusalem. This country assumed all responsibility for payment to the contractors and the materials.

I said it was good money after bad back in 2004/2005 when it was proposed. It was a show of might over Iraq to impose it on them at the time. It was always doomed to be a source of discontent with the people of Iraq.

the multitude of wrapped pallets of money ($100 denomination) being dropped into Baghdad? WHERE did THAT money go?

bet Haliburton and Brown & Root made out well from the building of that base. Which leads us to Dick. Cheney, that is.

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so maybe that's in there.

He just loves that formulation -- "like they've never seen."

He threatened Kim with that too, back before they fell in love.

That should make everyone one the ground’s life a whole lot safer...

a vase from Kim Jong Un. I do hope Pelosi withdraws her invite for his SOTU speech.

Never mind the fact that, without international support, this is an empty threat.

President Idiot Boy!

Iraq is a sovereign country, and if they chose to toss US troops out, that's their prerogative!
What possible reason would that lead to provoke you to "sanctions like they’ve never seen before ever"?
Because they defied your utter Bull Shit from the past few weeks?

Like; bombing installations in their country, manned by their citizens, without consultation?
Or, assassinating a foreign head of state (general) in their country, without notice, OR it seems
the backing of US/International law? (Still waiting to see the evidence of a "Imminent" threat!)
which is the basis required to make this action lawful. He may be a "bad guy", but we can't just
murder him... "cuz"..

It's too bad you want to deflect from your impeachment issues, and would love to start a war to
get votes here in 2020... However, you're being too cute by half! Everyone has your number!

Well, Dementia Donnie, maybe you should have thought about that before the Soleimani assassination.

Threaten them more, and they won't like you any better.

They will fight each other for the next thousand years.

Iraq has a Shi'ite led government now. Iran is Shi'ite.

while they might not be the best of buds, they are light years ahead of when saddam was in power and ruled as a Sunni.

you will see Iraq and Iran close ranks now.

I expect to see China and/or Russia play proxy with Iraq next.

Nothing good is on the horizon here.

I saw an article where Iraq even though with what's going on won't allow force to be increased past the current 5,200. So the forces getting sent are going to places like Kuwait. If we aren't training to go after isis what is the purpose of keeping 5,200 troops sitting ducks to rocket attacks and spread out over the country. I can't see this current situation lasting that long.

which include two of the holiest cities of Shiism.

...while he's at it?

He will cause the oil prices to go much much higher costing the American people huge increases in all the energy costs , and goods that'll increase their prices from what trump and republicans have allowed to happen. Wait until the tankers start getting block or attacked, then the prices will go out of site hurting us economically, just what putin wants to do for revenge . trump and republicans are compromised by putin, and this will generate huge revenue increases for putin, which he'll use to undermine us even more with bribes and intel to use against them.

and apologize to them.

yup

and then work with Iraq and Iran to calm things in the Middle East. Trump and war mongers like Pompeo want to destabilize the Middle East and start a war. Trump’s billionaire buddies would be thrilled because they’ll make tons of money in a war and Trump thinks he’ll look “strong”—his favorite word. In reality, Trump is a weak man because he let jealousy of Obama’s Iran nuclear deal make his decision to withdraw from the deal, even though it was working.

If it legally belongs to Iraq, I would say we could be evicted. (speaking strictly as a non-lawyer).

One of the supposed goals of the Iraq war was to bring the country Democracy now their democracy makes a decision and they don't like it?

Wouldn't surprise me if Iran sanctions American officials.