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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:56 AM Jan 2020

Pentagon rejects Trump threat to hit Iranian cultural sites

Source: AP

The Pentagon on Monday distanced itself from President Donald Trump’s assertions that he would bomb Iranian cultural sites despite international prohibitions on such attacks.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper said the U.S. will “follow the laws of armed conflict.” When asked if that ruled out targeting cultural sites, Esper said pointedly, “That’s the laws of armed conflict.”

The split between the president and his Pentagon chief came amid heightened tensions with Tehran following a U.S. drone strike that killed Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the head of Iran’s elite Quds Force. Trump had twice warned that he would hit Iranian cultural sites if Tehran retaliates against the U.S.

Esper’s public comments reflected the private concerns of other defense and military officials, who cited legal prohibitions on attacks on civilian, cultural and religious sites, except under certain, threatening circumstances.

Read more: https://apnews.com/9e87a8b9aa6cbde264a848b62f8a82fc?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

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Pentagon rejects Trump threat to hit Iranian cultural sites (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jan 2020 OP
These are the same people that gave the vile piece of shit the assassination option. onecaliberal Jan 2020 #1
+1 dalton99a Jan 2020 #2
+2 gopiscrap Jan 2020 #16
how long before Esper is out? katusha Jan 2020 #3
My father fought in WWII lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #4
"and fighting the damned Nazi bastards..." yonder Jan 2020 #8
What was the name of the ship? Very interested to go read more, thank you for sharing. Nt FreepFryer Jan 2020 #10
Kudos to Dad! Great story... thx for sharing Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #5
They just can't answer SCVDem Jan 2020 #6
They better start saying no to him - A LOT. calimary Jan 2020 #7
Not buying it Miguelito Loveless Jan 2020 #9
Ivanka and Jared would surely understand bombing the Wailing Wall. keithbvadu2 Jan 2020 #11
Oh Dang stumpy!! Maxheader Jan 2020 #12
Hitting cultural sites is within the definitions of a war crime. Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #13
US Military does not have to obey an illegal order DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #14
Cultural sites belong to all of humanity. While important to Iran, these sites Politicub Jan 2020 #15
exactly gopiscrap Jan 2020 #17
THis is what SEnator Wyden said in his town hall Sunday; that they wouldn't do it. WHen i posted Amaryllis Jan 2020 #18

lapfog_1

(29,213 posts)
4. My father fought in WWII
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 02:01 AM
Jan 2020

he was a fire control officer on a small destroyer in the Atlantic for much of the war.

During the invasion of Italy by the Allies, his destroyer supported the beach landing at Anzio.

Word came down that there was a German artillery spotter who was located in a Church bell tower near the landing area, directing German artillery fire onto the beach.

The Navy asked if the church bell tower could be taken out WITHOUT damaging the historic church (and possibly upsetting the Italian population).

Now the destroyer was sitting about a half mile or so off shore... and bobbing around in moderate seas. My dad made the calculations and directed the single shot from the destroyers gun and peeled the bell tower off the church and into the street below. The church was not hit at all. The destroyer got a special commendation for that action at Anzio and awarded the gun crew and my father a medal for their efforts that day.

Why do I tell you this? Because even in WWII and fighting the goddam Nazi bastards, our armed forces went to special effort to avoid destroying landmarks... even when in use as a military post by the enemy. How far we have fallen to be led by a moron who thinks it is OK for use to attack a nations historical landmarks and architecture which have no military or war production or terrorist value.

I'm sure my father is spinning in his grave right now.

yonder

(9,668 posts)
8. "and fighting the damned Nazi bastards..."
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 03:46 AM
Jan 2020

I'd add that we're still fighting the damned Nazi bastards and likely always will. But it's a fight we must carry on.

That's a great account about your dad.

keithbvadu2

(36,835 posts)
11. Ivanka and Jared would surely understand bombing the Wailing Wall.
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:28 AM
Jan 2020

Ivanka and Jared would surely understand bombing the Wailing Wall.

Speak up, JaVanka supporting Daddy.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
14. US Military does not have to obey an illegal order
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jan 2020

which is what targeting cultural/non-military sites would be.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
15. Cultural sites belong to all of humanity. While important to Iran, these sites
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jan 2020

are part of the heritage of people throughout history.

Trump does not get to choose to destroy them. It is beyond sickening that he and his followers threaten to demolish them. One cultural sites and artifacts are destroyed, they can not be returned to their original state.

What it is not is surprising. The Republican Party is driven by a mentality of "sticking it" to its perceived enemies. They feed off of anxiety and are sustained by their hatefulness. Their appetitive for hate is so great that it outweighs needs for healthcare, food security and an environment where their children can live meaningful lives.

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
18. THis is what SEnator Wyden said in his town hall Sunday; that they wouldn't do it. WHen i posted
Tue Jan 7, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jan 2020

that, most people who responded to my post said if he orders it, the military will do it. I figured that as a long time member of senate Intel, Wyden knows a thing or two.

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