not true.😳

Where from then?

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Iran is claiming responsibility

and here we are 😖


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before it will get better.

One of the key reasons I got out of the military was that I did not want idiots in charge of my life. Now our troops have to suffer due to this idiot in the Whitehouse.

Best way to honor the troops is not praying, its voting!

This is going to end well...

This jackass has GOT to be reined in, and I don't mean by the next election! He's endangering our troops' lives, and trying to dump us into another war. All for his own ego and personal gain. This is probably the most impeachable thing he's done yet.

Got an email from my niece today in Germany. Her husband is stationed there. She said he's,

"super upset about the Syria incident, because he was deployed there and doing the work first hand. It basically wipes out all of the relations they'd built and all the work they put in. It's a hot topic with him. It's a huge mess over here too. People think trump's supporting troops, but it only makes their lives harder. Especially for those of us stationed over here in Europe. It makes us an easy target, but they sure don't think about that."

I worry about them. There could be retaliation anywhere, and they live on base. She's pregnant.

To reign him in. However, Pence would be no better in this instance. Repukes want war. They especially want war with Iran

What we've seen as "typical GOP" is not trump.
Getting rid of trump would be the ultimate embarrassment to trump. And that would be fun to watch

That’s the ONE AND ONLY thing that keeps me from throwing all my vibes toward trump’s A: impeachment (check! GOT this one!); B: conviction in the Senate; and C: removal from office. Pence is next in line.

And oh how I hate seeing bad behavior rewarded - and thus, reinforced. But Good Grief, leaving trump in office is NOT what you’d call the lesser of two evils. BOTH options are actually quite dreadful.

Seriously close to tears here.

Normally:

Trump was briefed on the reports of rocket attacks, White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said. "We are aware of the reports of attacks on US facilities in Iraq. The President has been briefed and is monitoring the situation closely and consulting with his national security team," Grisham said.

...at least think of the oil! It's flammable.

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck.

Please someone restrain Trump before he decides to retaliate in some outrageous manner.

an escalation

If this was a movie, a group of sane, rational people would find a way to intervene and possibly find a way to invoke the 25th amendment before he blows up the world. We already know that when Trump makes a mistake, rather than back off, he doubles down.

I really thought that even die hard republicans would reach a point where they said, "enough is enough", but they haven't shown the slightest inclination in the past three years to do the right thing instead of the politically expedient one. Almost everyone is compromised beyond redemption.

but that is assuming that it was a mistake.

I am holding onto the notion of an intentional attempt to start a conflict. And yes, he will double down and then some, IMHO.

by how far he will go to distract and deflect. There is nothing this man won't do save face or win an election. He is demented and unhinged.

create a situation that could take him to his goal, (even if it may seem far-fetched now).

I expect to see some crazy tweets and grabs for "war powers". Remember that he is a wanna' be tin pot dictator and has been successful at certain forms of usurping and disrupting the system so far. Whether he is shooting for a Dubya effect or more remains to be seen.

And, I hope I am very wrong.

Orange Slice needs to move U.S. troops out of Iraq like yesterday.

Or, they are going to be considered an Illegal Military Occupation Force.

TV Evangelists? Somebody must make something to help people get through this

He cares more about how much we invested in building the airbase than about killing actual people. I hope that a missile is dropped on Mar-a-Lago while he is in it. Hey, Iran, go to the source!

He sure doesn't care when HE is spending the money, especially on himself.

He blew $500,000 from his father in less than 10 years. Hos money is either from his dad, who knew he was a loser businessman, or from laundering money from other countries. He has never "earned" an honest dime in his life.

"In October 2018, the New York Times released a blockbuster report on how Donald Trump manipulated tax loopholes in the 1990s to borrow at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father Fred Trump’s real-estate empire. Now, the Times provides more clarity as to why Trump had to funnel his father’s money into his business ventures — he was, reportedly, hemorrhaging money for close to a decade."

in loans that he never repaid. For a supposed "successful businessman", he is an incredible failure. Meanwhile, it is other people who end up paying for his horrible judgment and spending sprees.

If money for bases was an issue, he would have wanted to charge the Russians for the one we gave them in Northern Iraq.

We're about to go to war with a country with a much stronger military, 4x the geographic size, with 4x the population.

Stable Fucking Genius strikes again.

Eric and Don Jr will be safe off the base... waaaaaaay off the base.

No enlistments for the Trump family.

Nightmare situation

Christ...

an unimaginable nightmare and only going to get worse.

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I just meant I've seen some horrific numbers, that I pray aren't real.

Right wingers got what they wanted. Pompeo must be ecstatic.

That's why I don't trust Bolton's willingness to testify in the Senate. It's not beneath either Bolton or Trump to make a deal. Bolton has wanted regime change in Iran forever. Would he make a deal with Trump that in exchange for Trump engaging in a full-scale war with Iran, he'd testify that Trump did nothing wrong whatsoever in his dealing with Ukraine? You bet your ass he would, and the world would be sacrificed for these two tiny coward's egos.

Thanks Trump

And he will NOT be able to contain what follows.

FUCK YOU TRUMP. FUCK YOU TO DEATH.

He made a lot of enemies

and that they do not want Trump to retaliate for the missile attack.

gevernment

The actions of the trump administration has just destroyed that dissent

What a dumb ass

A couple of days ago on Facebook, I think. Something I only learned in the last week.

as if those people haven't been punished enough

western Iraq is within reach from Syria

n/t

The orange chicken-shit in the White House is feeling like a big man because he has the world's largest and best equipped military arrayed in front of him. I expect Trump to escalate in kind, and the whole fucking mess is going to blow up in the world's face. We no longer have allies anywhere, so we can't expect anyone to mediate a truce. We have a State Dept. that is so depleted of experienced statesmen that we can't depend on our own people to diffuse this shit.

The little orange coward in the White House has really wagged the dog, so his impeachment is no longer on the front page. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

There is a good bye party for him on the 18th. First stop for him of course is basic training. I want to get down on my knees and beg him not to go.

I'm a vet and this is a little know fact the recruiters aren't going to tell you, if you wake up the day you ship to boot camp and decide I don't want to.

you just don't get on the bus, and there is literally nothing they can do.

but once you show up, game over.

https://girightshotline.org/en/military-knowledge-base/topic/delayed-entry-program-discharge-dep-discharge

I'll talk to his parents.

I'm coming from a big family who have men who have served in WWII, Korea, Vietnam and the Gulf wars. I can't stand to see him as cannon fodder.

this is a very stupid escalation, that no one should die over. Mr. Trump's motives are clear, he is unfit and shouldn't be making strategic decisions given his crimes.

recruiters absolutely have a quota, they're going to raise all kinds of stink not just because of their quota numbers, but also because having somebody defer looks poorly upon them.

they are used car salesman, and will employ a wide range of tactics to put pressure on a young man to make a decision he doesn't want to.

should these games begin I would suggest contacting your congressperson if the individual you're speaking of decides they do not want to join. you could also seek to speak to the OIC over the recruiter station also. but they're often in on the shenanigans.

I'm thinking It's because he doesn't know what else to do.

I'll talk to his parents in private first.

take this as you will,

just talked to my cousin who is an Army recruiter and texted to confirm with him that anyone who has "joined" the military isn't legally required to ship to bootcamp. He said correct.

so if you are able to persuade this individual to not ship, then legally they don't have to.

yeah I look back at why I joined in 2007 and not sure I've got any actual reason. glad I did it. but can assure you I'm not rushing down tomorrow reenlist for this corrupt and illegitimate administration.

Americore, Teach for America, Red Cross, countless community opportunities.

There is no shame in changing your mind. Things have changed. You can always sign up later if you want to. Right now may not be the time.

You are not locked in no matter what they tell you. They won’t honor any promise made that isn’t in writing.

No shame.

That’s what I would tell him.


Hand on your heart skin to skin, breathe deep, drink lots of water to dilute the stress hormones in your blood, others care. That’s what I’d tell you in person if I could.



Try not to be afraid. ❤️❤️❤️

Unfortunately we'll have to wait see if this Trump fool can figure how to stop one. Pray.

Vladimir Putin is laughing his ass off. He'll be opening bottles of champagne that are as old as the Russian Revolution.

Mission accomplished for Vlad!

Game plan is this:

It's about supply and attrition.

There is no way that our military can win a conventional war against Iran.

To defeat Trump you need to crash the US economy, it's the only thing Trump has.

About 4 minutes ago

To be flushed into the toilet. Fill your gas tanks tonight.

Because that was never the objective.

or was that Eurasia.

On what the Party says. Big Brother knows!

However, coco rations are up, at least. ++Good!

I remember being furious when Shub got us into the last war. And of course a lot of Americans died. Now I fear that this will be worse.

Iran has experience, size, and military capability that Saddam did not. Iran is experienced at a war of attrition. The Iran-Iraq war lasted 10 years. Hard to see how this is resolved quickly, unless there is de-escalation. Trump can't spell "negotiation". But I think we'll know more by August.

You know tRump is not going to let this go. Tit for tat, and looking at all out war. No word yet on how many of our troops have been killed. Iran news saying 13.

How is Iraq feeling about getting caught in the middle of this???

Shit. Shit. Shit. SHIT!

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Trump kills a leader in response to the ineffective attempt to repeat the 1979 embassy take over.

He’ll blow them apart if they try anything more substantial.

Hard to care about Iran.

But I generally oppose anything trump does on principle. Sceptical.

It must be pretty amazing to have that kind of approach to the world.

Or do you believe that everyone in Iran is the same and equally culpable?

And you know it.

No need for snark among friends.

This suggests that they are not targeting civilians right now or bases where civilians reside. They are treating this as a military situation, a response to what they consider an act of war by Trump.

The Guardian is reporting there are 400 UK troops in Iraq who have suspended training of Iraqi troops in order to protect themselves. They hsve been relocated out of the Green Zone for their safety.

Meantime, British wsrships, helicopters, and several hundred troops are on standby for deployment within 48 hours. Britain has informed Iran that deaths of any British civilians or military will not be tolerated. 20 military planners are being deployed to develop contingency plans, depending on how things play out. British warships are in the Gulf, ready to escort British oil tankers if necessary.

of course because Trump will retaliate.

There is also the real possibility that radicalized people insude the US will act independently with terrorist attacks within the US. Plus Iran's threat to target a site in the US next..

Since Iran's military capabilities are so much less than ours, it occurs to me that they have some powerful backing from somewhere for them to take this step, knowing it will result in US retaliation. This has the makings for a world war when the sides line up. Britain will stand with us but I don't know who else might. Maybe other Anglo nations, but I would not count on Australia since their hands are full at the moment.

That outcome cinches Trump's capacity to evoke war powers, etc., which is another causality of this and my best guess is it has been his motivation for provoking this is the first place.

I don't think it was just some dumb move with out a strategy. That's the strategy. Let's see how he now plays this out and what powers he wants, takes or makes up in regards to staying in power.

as far as what powers he will grab. Also have thought that the action is deliberate, but that he is still bungling it as far as US security goes. What good will it do him to seize dictatorial powers if our economy is bled dry, our military exhausted and perhaps the rest of the world aligning to isolate us?

As for his reasons, the first is to distract from and try to nullify the impeachment by upstaging it. From there, he could try to "postpone" the election for national security reasons. Bush floated the idea in 2004 but never actually tried to act on it.

This could be as useful to Trump as the Reichstag fire was to German fascism. Not s false flag operation, but with the same results regarding usurpation of power.

I used to read stuff like that, and think . . . Nah, just Bad Guy propaganda.

Now I'm not so sure.

Something changed . . .

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To clarify, MSNBC said Iran reported that base was leveled with at least 30 dead. No confirmation (nor any statement) has been issued by the White House or the Pentagon at this timeregarding damage/casualties.


Trump did just tweet that "All is well" and that damage is being assessed.

I would wait until morning to learn about damage and casualties.

Iran military will inflate damages to soothe the mullah's.

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Showing they don't want a full scale war.

Since these were missiles where were our anti middle missiles that are supposed to shoot their missiles down.

Besides, Trump will, naturally, exercise no impulse control and bomb the hell out of Iran, who will retaliate. Wash rinse repeat. This isn't going away.

The Iranians are now emboldened.

The next response will likely strike soft Trump proprieties

That will flip Trump out. Time for the 25th Amendment, deep state coup according to him.

I totally get that Iran is pissed and they should be. What Trump did was illegal and based on lies. But this is cutting of your nose to spite your face. They can't possibly beat the US, and now their beautiful country will be destroyed and Trump will talk "regime change" to topple their government.

Shouldn’t we have heard by now?

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By that I mean the leadership in Iraq is dependent on appearing to be strong to its people to stay in power as any sign of weakness risks a revolt so they have to appear to do something but they know they cannot really take on the US.
The US Trump advisors know they fucked up but they cannot appear weak because they fear the blowback that will hit them so they arrange this with Iran where they can fire missiles at us to appease their people and the Trump people will make sure none of our people are killed but they will use it to rally their base before the election.
Other than that though it will not really escalate much more than that.

It's not a false flag.

pressure to do something.
Odds are though that unless Trump does something else (doubtful given his powers do not include declaring war) that Iran will not do anything further.

I hope he doesn't retaliate further, but I'd be shocked if he didn't.

Is the Iranian warned us through proxies that the attack was going to occur. Also, they targeted Al Asad air base, which for one, is massive and has a whole ton of open land for missiles to hit and damage little to nothing, and two, is closer to Syria than it is Iran. If they really wanted to cause casualties, they would have hit bases closer to their borders. The longer the flight time for the missiles, the more time we have to evac and bunker down after the launches are detected.

General? I mean lets consider this he was apparently very popular so was he popular enough that they feared he could be a threat to their power?
If so then perhaps this entire thing was staged with Iran arranging with Trump to kill the guy to get him out of the way and then they both agreed before hand to throw pretend punches at each other in other to help themselves and cover up the assassination.

I haven't read anything that suggested he was a threat to the Iranian supreme leader, actually, I have read the opposite, that he(soleimani) enjoyed a good relationship with Khamenei and many thought that he would eventually become President of Iran or even succeed Khamenei as leader. Now everything tonight being staged and agreed to quietly by Iranian and US officials as a way for Iran to save some face and deescalate things, that I could believe.

might have been unwilling to give up thus why they might have arranged for this.
Mind you it probably did not happen but if it did I would not be surprised especially after how we have seen even stranger things happen such as the Republican party embracing fascism wholeheartedly.

no US casualties. this has been talked about in the past. it was brought up when Iran shot the drone down. where we would give them a list of places we planned on striking so they could move troops out.

lets hope this was the case.

From CNN: "The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said in its Telegram channel that, in the event Iranian soil is bombed, it will target the cities of Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and Haifa, Israel, in the third wave of operations."

So, this appear to be it. If Trump orders a retaliatory strike, the Iranians will escalate by spreading the flames to significant portions of the Middle East.

be reigned in and not escalate it.
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“Seems like about 20 minutes ago, we were denouncing these people as the ‘deep state’ and pledging never to trust them again without verification,” Mr. Carlson told viewers, eyebrow arched. “Now, for some reason, we do trust them — implicitly and completely.”

...that's easy to explain: trump's a fuckin' liar...

...looks like Iran needs to whip up some nukes in a hurry now that trump's gonna destroy their country...

...maybe trump's friend Kimmy could help...

...maybe trump's friend Kimmy already has...

...nukes, the breakfast of champions...

...welcome to republican trump-world...

Trump says “no Americans were harmed”

Servpro says “like it never happened”

You do the maths