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riversedge

(70,270 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:17 PM Jan 2020

Pelosi says House not voting on impeachment managers Friday as Senate trial delay continues

Source: wtkr.com




Posted 10:41 am, January 10, 2020, by CNN Wire



House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said there will not be a vote Friday to name impeachment managers, a sign that the weeks-long impasse over starting President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial in the Senate will continue at least into next week.


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Neither Pelosi nor Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have yet budged in their stare down over the two impeachment articles that the House passed last month, charging Trump with abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

Pelosi has withheld the articles from the Senate, preventing the chamber from beginning the impeachment trial, as Democrats have pushed for McConnell to allow witnesses to testify in the Senate trial. Pelosi has said she wants to see the “arena” that the impeachment managers will operate in during the trial before naming them and sending the articles to the Senate.

But McConnell has said he will not publish the rules resolution ahead of time and will not agree to witnesses before the trial begins. He’s argued that the Senate should agree to a rule to begin the trial and then later decide on witnesses, just as the Senate did during the 1999 impeachment trial of former President Bill Clinton. And he said this week he’s got the votes — all Republicans — to go that route.

Democrats argue that McConnell is not following the Clinton precedent, because the Senate witnesses in that trial had already testified before a grand jury, while the witnesses Senate Democrats are seeking — including former national security adviser John Bolton and acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney — refused to testify during the House’s impeachment inquiry.........................

Read more: https://wtkr.com/2020/01/10/pelosi-says-house-not-voting-on-impeachment-managers-friday-as-senate-trial-delay-continues/

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Pelosi says House not voting on impeachment managers Friday as Senate trial delay continues (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2020 OP
Sham trial . . . Iliyah Jan 2020 #1
mcconnell is trapped 'twixt trump forcing mc c to yell 'trial now', empedocles Jan 2020 #2
The closer to SOTU the less probable bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #3
I think Pelosi wants Asshole to give that speech under the cloud maxsolomon Jan 2020 #5
SOTU Trump rant & tangent unpredictable bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #6
He's filled to the brim with resentment. maxsolomon Jan 2020 #7
Excellent hot2na Jan 2020 #4
MSNBC just reported the opposite. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #8
WaPo and NYT are reporting that during a meeting, she told Nadler to "get ready" for next week BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #9
Thank you for that information. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #10
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #11
Good analysis. Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #12

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Sham trial . . .
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jan 2020

more information coming out that in fact t-rump created a horrible and dangerous situation in order to promote and secure his cult member Republicans to acquit him . . .

Vote them out!

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. mcconnell is trapped 'twixt trump forcing mc c to yell 'trial now',
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jan 2020

and trump saying to mc c 'admit nothing].

Saw on MSNBC this morning a former McConnell staffter wryly saying, [as I remember], 'these negotiations are in the discussion stage.
This process has more to play out.'

[In the meantime, the Speaker seems to be allowing trump more time to screw up for the 'cons, evidence to build, and trump's support continue to weaken].

maxsolomon

(33,357 posts)
5. I think Pelosi wants Asshole to give that speech under the cloud
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jan 2020

of Impeachment. She's playing this for November.

No "exoneration" to brag about.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
6. SOTU Trump rant & tangent unpredictable
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:50 PM
Jan 2020

Getting Trump stable and able to deliver it is one thing.

Where he goes off script is another. He might think it a campaign rally, and really trash Pelosi or anyone else.

SOTU could prove the point of unsuitability for office. Be a shame not to have Articles on the shelf.

maxsolomon

(33,357 posts)
7. He's filled to the brim with resentment.
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:53 PM
Jan 2020

He'll spend half the time directly attacking the Democrats in Congress, the other half bragging about economic gains that happened in spite of him.

It will be cringe-worthy, no doubt. I don't like to feel Schadenfreude, but I think it will be unavoidable.

hot2na

(358 posts)
4. Excellent
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 12:37 PM
Jan 2020

Let them squirm as long as possible. Their strategy is to quickly put an end to the whole impeachment business. The longer Speaker Pelosi holds out, the more difficult it becomes as 1) More information about Trumps corruption comes out 2) Trump commits more impeachable acts 3) support for impeachment continues to rise.

BumRushDaShow

(129,296 posts)
9. WaPo and NYT are reporting that during a meeting, she told Nadler to "get ready" for next week
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

so assume if they do transmit next week, it might not be until the end of the week. And based on the House schedule, the week after next (week of 1/20/20) they will be off the whole week (MLK birthday is a federal holiday on 1/20/19) and I'll assume the Senate will be off that week as well. So that's 2 weeks "down".

That leaves one week left in January and the SOTU is scheduled for 2/4/20 I believe (1st week of February). So just based on these events and the congressional schedules, it could be that they will force the Senate to not really "start" until after the SOTU (meaning no "rah rah I'm exonerated by the Senate" stuff during the SOTU).

BumRushDaShow

(129,296 posts)
11. You are welcome
Fri Jan 10, 2020, 01:56 PM
Jan 2020

Some nuance -

Pelosi signals House will transmit articles of impeachment against Trump to Senate as soon as next week

By John Wagner, Colby Itkowitz and Mike DeBonis
Jan. 10, 2020 at 12:04 p.m. EST

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced Friday that the House next week will consider a resolution to appoint impeachment managers and transmit articles of impeachment to the Senate, setting the stage for a historic trial of President Trump.

Her announcement, in a letter to Democratic colleagues, came shortly after the House ended its work week without taking a vote on the matter. As recently as Thursday, Pelosi continued to insist that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) should release a resolution laying out rules of a trial before the articles were transmitted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-impeachment-live-updates/2020/01/10/e65f5f16-3398-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html


The nuance being (outside of the ridiculous simplistic media headlines and characterization by assuming that something like that would instantly get transmitted Monday) that there would be a process needed to draft "the resolution" in the Judiciary Committee and then have all the amendments and debate and whatnot happen - where the GOP will once more make moves to scuttle the thing but would also most likely need to appoint people from "their side", and then have the final markup get voted out of that Committee... afterwhich it will need to go to the Rules Committee to have the companion legislation drafted on how the Articles Transmission Resolution will be debated (amendments/amount of time for debate, etc), and then finally it'll hit the House floor for a final debate by the full House and a vote.

So if they do vote on the final resolution, that would most likely happen Thursday and I expect they'll be off on Friday ahead of the long weekend and "district work period" that following week (so it'll get sent over when "no one", other than the local reps, is left in D.C. ).
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