Some in China are saying hospitals are ill-equipped to treat affected patients, so they stay at home and sometimes die there.

They are not counted as infected (yet?).

I read last week where several people are reportedly dying in hospitals of "lung infections" their family suspected of being the novel coronavirus, but they were never tested. Their official causes of death are simply severe pneumonia.

But i've been in China, and I really think this may be the infection of our lives.

They will jump exponentially in the next few days. The sheer size of the population and density of the area under "quarantine" is just making it harder for these cases to be tested, reported, etc.

Did you see the footage of the hospital corridor that was packed with people, and there's at least 3 dead bodies on the floor...?

yeah, this is not going to end well...

Then again, I hate to say it but we need some population culling a la 1918

Just as densely populated, but with far fewer medical resources or government control.

because they're only counting the people with the wherewithal to go to the hospitals. Many people don't have that luxury and the "barefoot doctor" program died with Mao. So they're enjoying the same health care system we in the US have, your money or your life.

Hospitals are overwhelmed, in any case, doctors and nurses pushed to the breaking point because these people are so ill when they come in and need advanced life suppot. They're not any better equipped for this than we are.

So they're left with other measures that have had partial success on pandemics in history: cancel public gatherings, restrict travel, attempt to quarantine the sick. Unfortunately, this is absolutely the worst time of year for this to happen, and the travel ban was a bit late in coming, many people already having traveled to be with extended family for the holidays.

They are doing what they can and they're doing more than most cities would here (can you imagine the howls or protest if they tried to shut down megachurches?), so I certainly wish them success.

Although this one is killing the old rather than the young, it's still a bad one.

They literally locked ppl in their houses.

In England, they locked whole families in together if one member got sick, making sure the whole family would die. The few places in Europe that had plague hospitals in which to isolate the sick fared much better.

China seems to be doing that latter one, trying to slap up hospitals in a big hurry. History shows that will help. What they will need to fight most is fear, anyone with a cough is going to be terrified, maybe too terrified to get tested.\

China has enlisted Australia's help in developing a vaccine. Here the CDC hasn't been gutted completely, so I imagine they're working on it, also.

YouTube has some fantastic documentaries.

Does that include you? And your family? These are people just like you and me, with families and dreams and aspirations. For you to assert that this is in any way a good thing and needs to happen anyway is incredibly callous and I would even venture a little bit racist. As long as it’s happening to people on the other side of the globe don’t look like me, then it’s not really that bad. Right?

And I am fully aware that me and mine are also at risk...

Just saying that there's way too many people on the planet and it is a natural check on population...we've had population bottlenecks before...

I guess it came off as flippant, but I'm all for the planet ridding itself of us...humans are a virus

There's some evidence to support your thoughts there.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2424234

claiming that she has been in Hubei province treating people since the beginning and she thinks at least 90,000 have been infected.

That's a pretty stark difference from 19K, the current number.

Should we believe her? I don't know.

90K infected means the mortality rate is substantially lower, and the disease isn't as dangerous as we feared.

virus from Stephen Kings novel.

Reporting the truth about the deaths?

Whole cities in China are being quarantined, 60 million people being told not to leave, roads being barricaded, transportation being shut down.

Dead bodies lying in the streets on twitter reports, cities being mass sprayed with disinfectants, medical facilities completely overwhelmed.

Unreal

A traveler from Wuhan China has been hospitalized in isolation unit

Another one confirmed in Toronto, Canada, same circumstances

China spent the crucial first days of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak arresting people who posted about it online and threatening journalists

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-information-crackdown-on-wuhan-coronavirus-2020-1

You seem to have no problems throwing counties that pose no threat to your ban list why not China who now poses a possible grave danger to our country’s security.