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debsy

(530 posts) Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:33 AM Jan 2020

'You Think Russia Ever Goes In and Gets Ukraine, or No?': The Wildest Things Trump Said...

Source: Vice News

WASHINGTON — President Trump was even more blunt, crass, and unfiltered during a private dinner in 2018 at the Trump Hotel than he normally is in public.

While the big standout of the meal was his demand to fire the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, his transactional approach to geopolitics, total lack of concern for helping America’s international allies, and openness to letting businessmen convince him to back specific policies that’d benefit them illustrates just how the leader of the free world operates behind closed doors.

Read more: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xv7j/you-think-russia-ever-goes-in-and-gets-ukraine-or-no-the-wildest-things-trump-said-at-a-private-2018-dinner-revealed

Trump has never met Lev Parnas yet he talks to him a number of times during the dinner about Ukraine (including specifically about Marie Yovanovitch)and the marijuana industry. He is representing a few small interests at our expense. I'm sure we, as taxpayers, paid for that dinner.

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'You Think Russia Ever Goes In and Gets Ukraine, or No?': The Wildest Things Trump Said... (Original Post) debsy Jan 2020 OP

traitortrump's 'transactional apporach' empedocles Jan 2020 #1

he's 'open for business' and up for sale (bribes) rurallib Jan 2020 #5

Lot of evidence for that. Some may cost trump. empedocles Jan 2020 #6

He takes Putin and Parnas' advice over all of his advisors and US officials wishstar Jan 2020 #2

ORDERS, not "advice". He follows Putins ORDERS. AZ8theist Jan 2020 #4

I think he owes more money than his properties are worth scarytomcat Jan 2020 #10

That's why he has fought like crazy about his taxes. sarcasmo Jan 2020 #13

I have NO DOUBT that's true. A complete FRAUD. AZ8theist Jan 2020 #14

indeed! debsy Jan 2020 #12

Before his interview, I thought Parnas may be a backchannel dewsgirl Jan 2020 #3

Why do I keep reading this "they talked about firing her" meme... Dave Starsky Jan 2020 #7

I have heard it discussed a number of times. colorado_ufo Jan 2020 #9

Interesting quote about Sanders. JudyM Jan 2020 #8

Marijuana Blackjackdavey Jan 2020 #11

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

1. traitortrump's 'transactional apporach'

Reply to debsy (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:38 AM

Jan 2020

Wild phrase

rurallib

(62,423 posts)

5. he's 'open for business' and up for sale (bribes)

Reply to empedocles (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:04 AM

Jan 2020

that is my take

empedocles

(15,751 posts)

6. Lot of evidence for that. Some may cost trump.

Reply to rurallib (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 10:08 AM

Jan 2020

wishstar

(5,270 posts)

2. He takes Putin and Parnas' advice over all of his advisors and US officials

Reply to debsy (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 07:43 AM

Jan 2020

On tape I think it's Parnas who makes comment about Ukraine liking Clinton and Biden and Parnas makes sure to let Trump know that Marie Yovanovich was a Clinton holdover. That's enough for Trump to bark out his orders to get rid of the ambassador and take her out.

AZ8theist

(5,477 posts)

4. ORDERS, not "advice". He follows Putins ORDERS.

Reply to wishstar (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:44 AM

Jan 2020

Because of his imbecilic business acumen, Putin OWNS his ass through money laundering through his properties and illegal loans through Deutsche Bank.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2020/01/02/deutsche-bank-russian-money-laundering-and-trump/

https://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-banks-5-biggest-scandals/a-46510219

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)

10. I think he owes more money than his properties are worth

Reply to AZ8theist (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:06 AM

Jan 2020

and he owes a bunch to Russian oligarchs after he told us he didn't, when was campaigning

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)

13. That's why he has fought like crazy about his taxes.

Reply to scarytomcat (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:43 PM

Jan 2020

AZ8theist

(5,477 posts)

14. I have NO DOUBT that's true. A complete FRAUD.

Reply to scarytomcat (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 10:08 PM

Jan 2020

debsy

(530 posts)

12. indeed!

Reply to AZ8theist (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 04:26 PM

Jan 2020

Putin's lapdog!

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)

3. Before his interview, I thought Parnas may be a backchannel

Reply to debsy (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 08:24 AM

Jan 2020

to Putin, via Firtash. After this dinner, I think he may be the one feeding him all this deep state/anti Clinton crap, on whose behalf, I am unsure.
On a sidenote, I actually assumed it would be worse..

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)

7. Why do I keep reading this "they talked about firing her" meme...

Reply to debsy (Original post)

Sun Jan 26, 2020, 02:43 PM

Jan 2020

When the clowns he was talking to had absolutely none...zero...zilch...authority to fire her.

Why isn't that being discussed... anywhere... in any mainstream news forum?

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)

9. I have heard it discussed a number of times.

Reply to Dave Starsky (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 03:59 AM

Jan 2020

The mainstream news is aware.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)

8. Interesting quote about Sanders.

Reply to debsy (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:03 AM

Jan 2020

“ “Had she picked Bernie Sanders it would’ve been tougher. He’s the only one I didn’t want her to pick,” Trump said.”

Blackjackdavey

(178 posts)

11. Marijuana

Reply to debsy (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 02:44 PM

Jan 2020

To tell the truth it was an interesting exchange regarding marijuana given that it was word for word the same pro marijuana talking points ever uttered in any discussion of weed vs. alcohol. Complete with alcohol makes people violent, marijuana just "lowers iq." Now might be a good time to introduce some legislation...

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