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BadGimp

(4,015 posts) Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:23 PM Jan 2020

Poll: 75% of voters want witnesses for Senate impeachment trial

Source: CNN.com

(CNN) Three-quarters of registered voters think witnesses should be allowed to testify in the Senate impeachment trial, which has reached a crucial inflection point, a new national poll from Quinnipiac University finds.

This includes 49% of Republicans who think witnesses should be allowed to testify, 75% of independents and 95% of Democrats.

President Donald Trump's legal team ended their opening arguments Tuesday afternoon and the trial now moves on to a 16-hour period for senators to ask questions. Following that could be a vote on whether to bring witnesses, which has long been seen as a critical vote but has taken on new importance in the wake of news reports on former Trump national security adviser John Bolton's book.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/28/politics/quinnipiac-impeachment-poll-witnesses/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29

And apparently this:

McConnell tells GOP senators he does not have the votes to block witnesses in Trump's impeachment
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142425340

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Poll: 75% of voters want witnesses for Senate impeachment trial (Original Post) BadGimp Jan 2020 OP

There will come a point where Republicans realize bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #1

They've born him as a moral burden & a monetary gift. Which costs them less will be their decision. ancianita Jan 2020 #3

When 75% have no voice, you know it's a travesty of justice. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #2

Americans have to remember the 2014 Princeton/Northwestern Study of democracy. ancianita Jan 2020 #4

Chomsky shares this view PSPS Jan 2020 #5

What are his feeling about economic boycotts and protest? BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #6

Thanks. I was not aware of this study. There are only a couple candidates talking about this. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #8

Since 2014 I've looked for just one thing the Senate's done that Americans want. It's done zero. ancianita Jan 2020 #9

Would not disagree with that at all. The income disparity is rocketing toward the 1890's. Evolve Dammit Jan 2020 #10

Pelosi was right. B Stieg Jan 2020 #7

bucolic_frolic

(43,181 posts)

1. There will come a point where Republicans realize

Reply to BadGimp (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:33 PM

Jan 2020

Trump could be quite the baggage in November and they need to find out what went on because if they don't it will be DRIP, Drip, Drip all year and beyond.

ancianita

(36,075 posts)

3. They've born him as a moral burden & a monetary gift. Which costs them less will be their decision.

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:57 PM

Jan 2020

If they all wanted to be hailed as saving the Republic, they'd actually be able to see the House Managers' case. But they are in the usual Republican fog of war.

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)

2. When 75% have no voice, you know it's a travesty of justice.

Reply to BadGimp (Original post)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:55 PM

Jan 2020

ancianita

(36,075 posts)

4. Americans have to remember the 2014 Princeton/Northwestern Study of democracy.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:04 PM

Jan 2020

It was pretty conclusive. https://www.businessinsider.com/major-study-finds-that-the-us-is-an-oligarchy-2014-4

https://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/is-america-an-oligarchy

When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organised interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favour policy change, they generally do not get it.

They conclude:
Americans do enjoy many features central to democratic governance, such as regular elections, freedom of speech and association and a widespread (if still contested) franchise.

But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organisations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America's claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened.

Eric Zuess, writing in Counterpunch, isn't surprised by the survey's results.

"American democracy is a sham, no matter how much it's pumped by the oligarchs who run the country (and who control the nation's "news" media)," he writes. "The US, in other words, is basically similar to Russia or most other dubious 'electoral' 'democratic' countries. We weren't formerly, but we clearly are now."

Six years on, we're still struggling to believe this.

We must. Therefore, we must support the candidates who say this is our major problem.

PSPS

(13,601 posts)

5. Chomsky shares this view

Reply to ancianita (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:27 PM

Jan 2020

In russia, people can't protest so it doesn't matter. Nothing changes.

In the US, people can protest but it still doesn't matter. Nothing changes.

BigmanPigman

(51,609 posts)

6. What are his feeling about economic boycotts and protest?

Reply to PSPS (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:38 PM

Jan 2020

I'm not being a smartass, I really would like to know. Do they work long or short term?

Evolve Dammit

(16,743 posts)

8. Thanks. I was not aware of this study. There are only a couple candidates talking about this.

Reply to ancianita (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:09 PM

Jan 2020

ancianita

(36,075 posts)

9. Since 2014 I've looked for just one thing the Senate's done that Americans want. It's done zero.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 29, 2020, 08:27 PM

Jan 2020

It does a helluva lot more TO Americans that hurts them than helps them.

Yet all of this zero attention to what Americans want is done while taking OUR MONEY.