Utah Senate votes to unanimously decriminalize polygamy among consenting adults
Source: Reuters
BY JENNIFER DOBNER REUTERS
Posted February 18, 2020 4:29 pm
Updated February 18, 2020 4:38 pm
The Utah state Senate voted unanimously on Tuesday to effectively decriminalize polygamy among consenting adults, approving a bill to reduce the penalty for plural marriage from a felony to an infraction on par with a traffic ticket.
The Republican-sponsored bill easing the law on polygamy, a practice with deep religious roots in the predominantly Mormon Western state, now moves to the Utah House of Representatives, where it is likely to face greater resistance.
Under current law, the practice of polygamy in Utah typically involving a man who cohabitates with and purports to marry more than one wife is treated as a third-degree felony punishable by up to five years in prison.
If the newly passed Senate bill becomes law, punishments for plural marriage would be limited to fines of up to US$750 and community service. No jail time could be imposed.
Read more: https://globalnews.ca/news/6565225/utah-senate-polygamy-decriminalized/
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)for six months in 2005, and the Mormons I encountered there were very careful to distinguish the polygamists from themselves. I'm surprised they would move to do this. A lot of them had been on mission trips where they had to counter the idea that the LDS Church was still polygamous, and they were sick of the notion that they were seen that way by so many non-Mormons.
Squinch
(50,993 posts)It's usually an adult male - sometimes in his forties or fifties - with an underage girl who has no choice in the matter.
And there are the tapes that prove it.
keithbvadu2
(36,876 posts)Old - Grown enough to marry
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I don't think many of those women get to say whether they actually want to be in that situation.
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rurallib
(62,441 posts)TomSlick
(11,108 posts)The Enabling Act that allowed for Utah's admission to the union contained a requirement that the State Constitution provide:
"That perfect toleration of religious sentiment shall be secured, and that no inhabitant of said State shall ever be molested in person or property on account of his or her mode of religious worship; Provided, That polygamous or plural marriages are forever prohibited."
As required, the Utah Constitution provides: "Perfect toleration of religious sentiment is guaranteed. No inhabitant of this State shall ever be molested in person or property on account of his or her mode of religious worship; but polygamous or plural marriages are forever prohibited."
Bigamy (the term used in the Utah statutes) is still "prohibited" under the Senate bill, it's just reduced from an felony to an "infraction" - you know, like jay-walking.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Yup....that's not a waste of time. Great idea. Get all those unmarried women hooked up to share some "provider" to take care of them in those cold winters.
Romney country.
Squinch
(50,993 posts)Canoe52
(2,949 posts)RockRaven
(14,990 posts)Or did Utah GrOPers happen assiduously to avoid that particular argument? I kind of doubt it.
Warpy
(111,329 posts)It might start to break down that wall of secrecy they live behind, homeschooling the kids more out of fear of discovery than religious control and associating only with other polygamous families.
I knew a non Mormon polygamous family many years ago. It ended badly, the lord and master got booted out and the women kept living together because that part of the arrangement had been good for them.
Still, having that wall of secrecy torn down to the point that women will know that speaking out if some old goat wants to take an 11 year old girl as his fifteenth wife will not destroy their own families will help a great deal.
Forcing everybody into a one size fits all lifestyle causes a lot more harm than allowing alternatives out in the sunshine.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)... since I myself lived in such a small harem when I was young. We were on social security for some time, and I was put in the official papers here in Denmark as head of the house. No official marriage though.
What I do not like is people being forced into marriages, also just as couples.
But do not let any social customs, silly church ideas or laws stop people from being joined together in holy what ever they like and love, as long it is done freely and with no pressure for doing it!
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Now are Mormon women going to be allowed to have multiple husbands? asking for a friend...
2naSalit
(86,765 posts)It's hard to catch up with over population when you can only have one breeder at a time.
keithbvadu2
(36,876 posts)Which spouse is the official/legal spouse?
After all, polygamy would still be a crime.
catrose
(5,071 posts)All above the age of consent, of course.
jmbar2
(4,904 posts)Expecting crickets...
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)but the Independent, fundamentalist baptist church I grew up in considered Mormons one step below catholics. None of them right with the lord and all destined for a burning hell. So I expect they'll proclaim loudly from those pulpits how evil this is while secretly wishing they could get in on it.
olddad65
(599 posts)It might cost the taxpayers less, but what about the sexually abused young women?
yaesu
(8,020 posts)not only aren't interested in tying the knot but are into open relationships, more than one partner.
Submariner
(12,506 posts)Those mormons weren't going to let the perverts at the roman catholic church of child rape have all that rapey fun with kids for themselves.
If the mormon women have half a brain they will grab their kids and run away from these creepy LDS elders making rape great again in trump country.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)The Church as LDS members call it, has worked to separate itself from the FLDS and other kook splinter groups that claim the true lineage back to old Joe Smith. So this is about power as much as anything. Now my great grandfather who spent three years in the state pen would have been thrilled. He could have kept all four of his wives... crazy.
I wonder how Mittens feels about this?
oldsoftie
(12,586 posts)IADEMO2004
(5,557 posts)0rganism
(23,965 posts)i would think so, along with the corresponding complications to child custody and inheritance laws.
JDC
(10,130 posts)This is really an over the top move in the age of anything goes Trumpism.
Marcuse
(7,505 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)Legalize polyandry. Cause if the men want harems,the women should have the right to have them also.
TreadSoftly
(219 posts)MAMMAG8R
(6 posts)Nitram
(22,853 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Karadeniz
(22,564 posts)Famous for its tolerance or striving for social equality. This is not good. Is membership down?
jgmiller
(395 posts)I've always been very confused by this whole thing. If marrying multiple people in the civil is illegal why do it?
There's no law against having multiple "wives" if you want there's not even anything illegal about a minister performing the ceremony (the church position is different) so why go to the court house, get a license and sign it and therefore admit to a crime?
If your theory is that God allows polygamy then why do you care about the secular license that is just going to land you in jail?
Of course everything I said assumes consenting adults.
orangecrush
(19,611 posts)Does this also make it legal for one woman to have a harem of husband's?
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)The daughter on the show believed her best friend was engaging in incest with her father as she was pregnant and couldn't explain who her secret boyfriend was. So sheriff's daughter files a complaint, leading to her father, played by Tom Skerritt to arrest the guy. The big reveal comes in the courtroom when it turns out the girl is a bit older than she let on and is engaged in polygamy with the man and woman posing as her parents.
The judge (played by the legendary Ray Walston) basically says the rules of marriage are changing and saying he doesn't want the test case while talking about common law marriage. Well, they were ahead of their time, that show.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)I'd love to see the Bible-thumpers try to go against that...