ICE rejects California law, arrests people at courthouse
Source: AP
By OLGA R. RODRIGUEZ and JULIET WILLIAMS
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) U.S. immigration agents arrestedtwopeople at a Northern California courthouse, including a man detained in a hallway on his way to a hearing,floutinga new state law requiring a judicial warrant to make immigration arrests inside such facilities.
Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents made the arrests Tuesday at Sonoma County Superior Court, prompting an outcry from criminal justice and court officials who said the action undermines local authority and deters immigrants who are in the country illegally from participating in the U.S. justice system.
ICE said Californias law doesnt supersede federal law and will not govern the conduct of federal officers acting pursuant to duly-enacted laws passed by Congress that provide the authority to make administrative arrests of removable aliens inside the United States.
Our officers will not have their hands tied by sanctuary rules when enforcing immigration laws to remove criminal aliens from our communities, David Jennings, ICEs field office director in San Francisco, said in the statement.
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madville
(7,412 posts)Doesn't matter if it's immigration, guns, drugs, etc.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)TomSlick
(11,109 posts)dware
(12,429 posts)And if any local, county or state official interferes, they can be arrested and federally prosecuted.
Magoo48
(4,720 posts)some chickenshit about federal laws which are used as cudgels against us. Fuck that shit. California must resist in every way we can the eruption of dung flowing out of DC.
dware
(12,429 posts)ICE agents have every right to arrest wanted immigrants, no matter where they are, whether in a state, city or county building.
Any local interfering with a lawful arrest will find themselves being arrested themselves and federally prosecuted.
It sucks, but it's just the way it is.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)immigration laws the state cannot block the federal government from enforcing federal law.
kiri
(796 posts)ICE people have to pass thru a screening to enter, like all others. It is in the authority of local authorities to require that they remove all weapons, badges, etc. and then to display their identities to be checked.
This could take an hour or more; meanwhile they are detained.
dware
(12,429 posts)All they have to do is show their ID and they can go around the detectors.
It happens all the time.
kiri
(796 posts)This is a privilege given, but not in any laws. Or any authority that ICE commands.
Here in Worcester I saw 2 ICE guys--one sort of in plain clothes, the other in camouflage regalia--asked to stand aside while others went through the detector machines at the courthouse.
They were prevented from entering until they displayed their weapons. It took about 40 minutes!
With a little tweaking, it could take 2 hours.
dware
(12,429 posts)The vast majority of LEO's will give professional courtesy to other LEO's, whether Federal, State or Local.
I know this because much of my family were in Law Enforcement.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)This isn't good at all.
dware
(12,429 posts)but it's just the way it is.
Also, if an ICE agent saw an undocumented worker that was wanted in a state courthouse, you can bet the farm that the local LEO's aren't going to prevent them from making an arrest, if they did interfere, they would be arrested for obstructing a Federal Agent in the lawful performance of their duties and would probably be Federally prosecuted in Federal Court.
2naSalit
(86,775 posts)I have relatives with badges in some federal agencies.
Throck
(2,520 posts)Just a piece of paper, like a search warrant that cancels all your rights on the spot.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)C Moon
(12,221 posts)Boston last week, California this week.
I can't help but think they will be policing polls by November.
BigmanPigman
(51,627 posts)We are living in dangerous, uncertain times I'm sorry to say.
rickford66
(5,528 posts)If a Dem wins, that's what will happen.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)How the hell is that legal?
dware
(12,429 posts)so it was 100% legal, stupid, but legal.
sakabatou
(42,174 posts)ck4829
(35,091 posts)Throck
(2,520 posts)ck4829
(35,091 posts)Jose Garcia
(2,605 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)The state or city government, who will issue the fine, or issue a warrant for failure to appear, or the federal government, who will arrest you and kick you out of the country.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)There are smarter ways to do what they did, but it was all legal.
ck4829
(35,091 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)dware
(12,429 posts)Doing their jobs?
DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)and reconstituted differently?
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)1) Vote Republicans out until 2099.
2) Stop all persons who do not have immediate, direct, or specific purposes for coming inside of a court house... you'all have cameras, metal detectors, and additional security measures... use them vigorously, smile, walk them through all that stuff and more...for security, 'cause after all armed persons have killed city, county, state and federal level personnel before. Refuse their entrance unless and until they meet your level of security is assured.. e.g. no guns, no shields, no absolutely no jackboots.
3) Every time and in every situation where a 'jackboot' acts should be filmed with speakers/recorders on and pixels high... complete, steady, unwavering, and full.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)That hurt my head.....Federal LEO's have a reason to be were their wanted people are.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,473 posts)wkdjr
(5 posts)Pay attention Trumpers are not shy, this is them forming Trump's Brown Shirts ignore them at personal peril.
MurrayDelph
(5,301 posts)This is the Gestapo.
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,482 posts)California SB54 "...prevents state and local law enforcement agencies from using their resources on behalf of federal immigration enforcement agencies." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Senate_Bill_54
Nothing a state can really do to stop ICE from doing their own work but they can refuse to in state cooperation.
The AP title implies that feds are somehow bound by state laws and that ICE overstepped.