Coronavirus: 700 New York residents who traveled to China under voluntary quarantine
Source: USA Today
Coronavirus: 700 New York residents who traveled to China under voluntary quarantine
David Robinson, New York State TeamPublished 1:11 p.m. ET Feb. 26, 2020
Voluntary quarantine protocols have been applied to about 700 people who returned to New York after traveling to areas affected by the coronavirus outbreak in China since Feb. 3, authorities said.
The vast majority of the travelers were deemed at medium risk for the new coronavirus, called COVID-19, because of recent travel to mainland China, New York State Health Department officials told the USA TODAY Network New York late Tuesday.
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None of the 700 people had symptoms, and the number of them being monitored by local health officials during a 14-day self-isolation period was changing almost daily, in part, due to ongoing travel from mainland China, state health officials said.
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Many of the 700 travelers were deemed medium risk based on CDC guidelines due to their travel from mainland China outside Hubei Province, which includes the epicenter of the outbreak in Wuhan, and not having any exposures that meet a high-risk definition, such as failing to take recommended precautions while living with or caring for a lab-confirmed case of COVID-19.
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Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/02/26/coronavirus-700-under-voluntary-quarantine-ny-after-china-travel/4881305002/
SergeStorms
(19,204 posts)a quick and reliable test for the virus, the world is holding it's breath. I suggest rapid and relentless testing using the Trump family, but the chances of the virus being transmitted from Trumps to human beings is still considered too dangerous at this point.
matt819
(10,749 posts)At least to me.
Now, will we see similar reporting about other recent travelers to China, or to cities where the infection is spreading. Apart from whatever epidemiologists know (and may or may not be reporting publicly), this is the only way for the unwashed masses to try to track what is happening and, more important, what might happen.
So, 700 people in self quarantine. Factor in the number of people they have had contact with, and on and one, and we may begin to see the possibilities in the US. Not panicking, but valid information would be nice. Now. . . who is going to track, and report on, the results of this self-quarantine. And, apart from the mostly isolated cases that have been reported, are there any other large groups, or even individual travelers who have done the same? Where? How many?
How about this as a start? Can journalists obtain information about the number of travelers who have returned from the Wuhan area to the US, whatever the route they traveled, from Feb 3 onward. Is the number in the hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands? More? And how does this compare to the number of travelers from that area to Europe and elsewhere in Asia during the same period. Or, for that matter, Latin America? Of course, we're probably at the point of whatever the term is for secondary infections, so maybe the information I'm looking for is unnecessary. Overall, though, at least from the reporting in the US, the oversight, if we can even call it that, is absent or lackadaisical at best.
And speaking of follow up, I can't recall seeing anything more about American troops in South Korea. One infection. And that's it? Sounds like a news lockdown to me.
hellno45
(67 posts)it will be a hodge podge way of dealing with a pandemic.
DENVERPOPS
(8,838 posts)are there any other states besides NewYorkers that have citizens that traveled to China???????
captain queeg
(10,212 posts)Seattle & Portland for instance. And they found a guy in Vancouver BC who tested positive after flying in on a Canadian airline. Not good news for anyone who was on that plane with him. Very high number of Chinese immigrants there
herding cats
(19,565 posts)The people returned to the U.S. on or after Feb. 2 and are being asked to monitor their health, stay home and limit interactions with others, the California Department of Public Health said in a statement.
The department said that number excludes those who visited Chinas Hubei province, where the disease known as COVID-19 originated. Americans who spent time there and in Hubeis provincial capital of Wuhan have been flown home on U.S.-chartered flights and quarantined on military bases.
The U.S. is funneling travelers from China to 11 airports, including San Francisco International Airport, to ensure they get medical screening and medical care. At least 34 people in the U.S. have tested positive for the virus, including 18 who returned home from a quarantined cruise ship in Japan, the Centers for Disease Control said during a conference call with reporters Friday.
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/california-tells-7000-people-who-returned-from-china-to-stay-home-because-of-coronavirus/
I'm sure there are other areas where they're doing the same.
moriah
(8,311 posts)... imagine trying to do physical quarantine for over 7.5k people without creating perfect conditions for virus transmission *within* the quarantine group.
My opinion is based on my understanding of the way novel viruses work, and I am not a doctor.
But: yes, the virus is going to get to the US eventually, and we will probably all be exposed to it. The hope is that the virus will attenuate -- get weaker -- as it spreads between human beings. That is the general trend with novel viruses, in normal settings. Every variant of the "common cold" started this same way, and eventually the worst just became those cruds that are hard to shake -- not causative of viral pneumonia, but likely to cause bacterial secondary pneumonia.
It's that time between now and "eventually" that we have to worry about, and how we handle people exposed to variants that spread in conditions like on the Diamond Princess (people crammed together). Those are the patients/contacts I'm most worried about, that and any positives that show up in the Hubei-province quarantine facilities.
Why?
Two pressures exist on a novel virus. First, to be able to replicate fast in human cells. Second, to not replicate so fast/cause so much damage to their hosts that they can't spread to new human hosts.
In crowded conditions/insufficiently sanitary attempts at quarantine, like the attempts to "shelter in place" on the Diamond Princess but crew were still in contact with people to deliver meals, etc... that was the perfect environment for a strain to pass through multiple human hosts without the pressure to leave the people mobile, meaning the bigger pressure on the virus was to reproduce fast in human cells. There were 3700 people on that ship, 705 infected, 4 dead (so far).
In the US, especially in a metropolitan area, it is quite possible to self-isolate. Grocery delivery is a thing, and unlike the crew of the Diamond Princess delivering meals to 2000 people so getting exposed to many many people who might have the virus, delivery people will just gonna probably see the one on their route (and be capable of less contact, like just leaving the bags on the ground outside and driving off, plus not having to pick back up used trays like the DP crew had to do).
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Bean Counters, turned CDC scientist have it under control!
Backseat Driver
(4,394 posts)Mexico, Central American countries, South American countries - none! Are these countries not reporting, have no sales rep visitors for foreign trade visiting back and forth, no tourists, unfavorable wind patterns of airborne pathogens, or what? Same for mid/southern African continent - they all have weird live food markets that sell "wild" zoo species of animals too!
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)RIO DE JANEIRO) Brazils government confirmed on Wednesday that a 61-year-old Brazilian man who traveled to Italy this month has Latin Americas first confirmed case of the contagious new coronavirus. The Brazilian man spent two weeks in northern Italys Lombardy region on a work trip, where he contracted the contagious virus, the health ministry said.
https://time.com/5791025/brazil-latin-america-coronavirus-cases/
Kali
(55,014 posts)what? you don't believe the stable genius?
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)Reports of outbreaks began late December... was present and affecting folks in China in mid-November; since Feb 3 a long way down the pike.
soryang
(3,299 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,322 posts)One after a SE Asia vacation who has a cough (though he said he had it before he went), and one after filming in Iran:
The Today programme presenter told the radio show that he had the cough before he left but is still a bit croaky. On his doctors advice he called 111 to arrange a test once he got home because both Vietnam and Cambodia have been added to the list of places where you should get a test upon returning.
He was told to drive himself to hospital to avoid infecting others. A nurse came out into the car park fully protected with a plastic face visor, rubber gloves, disposable aprons, he described.
They then carried out the kind of the routine test you would have in hospital but through the car window, he said.
https://inews.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-jon-snow-nick-robinson-self-isolation-covid-19-outbreak-1995710
Link to tweet
iluvtennis
(19,864 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)goes down again.