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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,190 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:19 PM Mar 2020

10th coronavirus death confirmed in Washington state

Source: My Northwest.com

Wednesday

10:59am – The State Department of Health has confirmed another coronavirus death in King County, bringing the total in Washington to 10. The total number of cases in the state is now at 39.

Read more: https://mynorthwest.com/1744551/live-updates-coronavirus-washington-state/

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10th coronavirus death confirmed in Washington state (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 OP
Oh no. Mrs. Overall Mar 2020 #1
What I want to know customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #2
What the heck does that mean? titaniumsalute Mar 2020 #3
I'm speaking customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #4
Pretty much anyone who walks in the door at such a facility BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #5
Wouldn't it be prudent customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #6
I have read that there's a theory that the virus has been floating around BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #7
They've done genetic testing, and it was this guy who started at least part... moriah Mar 2020 #9
Those poor people,must be a nightmare inside the long-term care facility Sunlei Mar 2020 #8
My thoughts exactly. hamsterjill Mar 2020 #10
can see from the news coverage facility swarms with medical personal Sunlei Mar 2020 #11
I hope you're right. I sincerely do. hamsterjill Mar 2020 #12
And, if you're over 60, stay home. Pobeka Mar 2020 #13
That would be me. I'm 62. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 #14
I haven't seen any masks (in south sound Fed Way -- Tacoma area). Pobeka Mar 2020 #15

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
2. What I want to know
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:31 PM
Mar 2020

is how the hell this disease migrated from China to a place where people don't get out much.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
3. What the heck does that mean?
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:44 PM
Mar 2020

Seattle is a large metropolitan area with a lot of Asian population. Pretty simple actually.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
4. I'm speaking
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:50 PM
Mar 2020

of the long-term care facility that is not directly in Seattle, but in a suburb.

Was it someone travelling from Asia that came to see a family member in the facility? Is anyone bothering to figure that out?

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
5. Pretty much anyone who walks in the door at such a facility
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:54 PM
Mar 2020

can carry a virus in with them. Deliverymen, nursing staff, grandkids, pharmacists, etc. All they have to do is leave the virus on a keyboard or doorknob or faucet handle.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
6. Wouldn't it be prudent
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:58 PM
Mar 2020

to try to trace that person, and figure out who else they might have carried the virus to? I simply don't see any stories on such efforts, if they exist. In the case of the man in NY, they've quarantined everybody from his job to his synagogue.

BusyBeingBest

(8,059 posts)
7. I have read that there's a theory that the virus has been floating around
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

Washington state for weeks before the first cases started appearing. Not everyone who has the virus has noticeable symptoms, either. So it may be impossible to find that person.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
9. They've done genetic testing, and it was this guy who started at least part...
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

... of the Seattle area cluster.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2001191

That article shows his time in the community before seeking care at an urgent care clinic, that referred him to a hospital, and how long he had comparatively mild symptoms until he developed viral pneumonia.

As no positives directly associated from him had been logged (aka no one got sick enough to want to go into isolation with a colleague, or connected their runny nose to treating him, etc), they thought they'd stopped the transmission line with him.

Unfortunately, genetic sequencing has shown they didn't.

https://www.geekwire.com/2020/genetic-analysis-suggests-coronavirus-infections-double-every-six-days-spreading-hundreds/

The two sequences are similar, but patterns of variation in the genetic code can indicate how much that code has changed in the course of transmission.

The virus from WA1 was sampled on Jan. 19, and the virus from WA2 was sampled on Feb. 28, The viruses’ genetic codes were sequenced by the research team behind the Seattle Flu Study and shared publicly to the worldwide GISAID database for pathogenic viruses. That allowed Bedford to reconstruct how the coronavirus evolutionary tree spread out over the course of those six weeks.

In today’s tweetstorm, Bedford said WA1’s case appears to have been the start of a transmission chain leading to WA2. “This suggests that the case WA1 infected someone who was missed by surveillance due to mild symptoms, and a transmission chain was initiated at this point” in mid-January, he wrote.

The transmission chain that went through WA2 wasn’t picked up, probably due to the fact that until last week, the testing effort was focused on sick people who were traveling directly from China or who were in direct contact with a known case.


Emphasis mine on the critical failure.

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Edit to add: https://bedford.io/blog/ has some great information from the guy who is doing the analysis, with graphics!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. Those poor people,must be a nightmare inside the long-term care facility
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 04:29 PM
Mar 2020

Seems like the corona virus strikes the elderly very harshly.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
10. My thoughts exactly.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:26 PM
Mar 2020

The threat of the virus alone must be horrible for the people inside the facility. Add to that the stress of it all on already frail people (heart conditions, COPD, etc.) and it’s a recipe for disaster. I hope they are receiving the best possible care and prevention measures. I fear they are being written off as merely elderly people who don’t matter.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
11. can see from the news coverage facility swarms with medical personal
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:33 PM
Mar 2020

I bet the Elders get better care than usual because of all the eyes on them. I hope so

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
12. I hope you're right. I sincerely do.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020

I’ve heard the use of “underlying condition” too much as a part of this coronavirus situation as if anyone with compromised health is expendable. We are all compromised in some way (age, disease, stress).

I sincerely hope your point about the extra attention generated serves to benefit these residents. I want them well cared for.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
13. And, if you're over 60, stay home.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:00 PM
Mar 2020

I'd wager there are a thousand people in the Puget Sound metro area that are infected. Just haven't been tested or are asymptomatic.

We stocked up on rice, lentils and garbanzos a few weeks back, seeing this coming. Fortunately I make great humus. Lentils done with indian spices are delicious. Frozen pomodoro from last summer, frozen veggies. We can make it for a few weeks without going out if we have to. I'll still do my morning walks in the neighborhood tho'.

Stay safe everyone.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,190 posts)
14. That would be me. I'm 62.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:04 PM
Mar 2020

But I had to get groceries today.

Saw a few people wearing masks. All of them were young.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
15. I haven't seen any masks (in south sound Fed Way -- Tacoma area).
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:07 PM
Mar 2020

Fortunately we're retired, and don't have pressure to work, so staying relatively isolated is no big deal.

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