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brooklynite

(94,574 posts)
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:05 AM Mar 2020

WHO questions UK response

Source: The Guardian

World Health Organization spokeswoman Margaret Harris has questioned the UK’s approach to developing “herd immunity” against Covid-19.

Dr Harris told BBC Radio 4’s Today: “We don’t know enough about the science of this virus, it hasn’t been in our population for long enough for us to know what it does in immunological terms.

“Every virus functions differently in your body and stimulates a different immunological profile. We can talk theories, but at the moment we are really facing a situation where we have got to look at action.”

You can read more about herd immunity, and its use with coronavirus, here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/herd-immunity-will-the-uks-coronavirus-strategy-work

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-live-updates-uk-us-australia-italy-europe-school-shutdown-sport-events-cancelled-latest-update-news

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Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
1. "Herd immunity" without vaccines is what you push when you got no real response, like Boris
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:20 AM
Mar 2020

Watch Donny Six Words start talking about herd immunity.

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
2. +1
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:44 AM
Mar 2020

What's a few deaths anyway; it'll just be "old" people. (I'm being extremely sarcastic)

Of course, this assumes that those who are infected will actually build up an immunity (and the virus won't mutate nullifying that immunity). Nothing like being used as some type of sick science experiment (by those who disregard scientific opinion in the first place).

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
3. There are many reasons to think that it WILL mutate enough to make this approach useless.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:53 AM
Mar 2020

It's just a single strand of RNA and - just like the common cold - is very prone to mutating, so we can get it over and over again over a period of time.

Igel

(35,311 posts)
6. But there are far more ways for a virus to be relatively benign than to be lethal.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:59 PM
Mar 2020

Just as there are far more ways for a virus to avoid current antibodies than to run afoul of pre-existing ones.

Mutations favor re-infection. Mutations favor mild.

We live in a probabilistic universe. Hail Entropy!

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
7. Clearly mutations can cause reinfection.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:24 PM
Mar 2020

But I would like to know the logic behind 'mutations favor mild.' I am not disputing it particularly. But it seems to me that mutations - being random - could have many different impacts on the infectioousness and/or lethality of the virus, and whatever makes it more able to survive to reproduce is what will endure.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
4. Herd immunity is basically allowing infection to spread far and wide.
Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:43 AM
Mar 2020

Some (many) will die, but the rest will develop heard immunity (hopefully). Seems immunity doesn't last long with this coronavirus.

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