Trump steps up effort to tout malaria drug as coronavirus 'game changer' despite doubts from FDA
Source: The Hill
President Trump doubled down on his campaign to cast a malaria drug as a coronavirus cure, saying the treatment could be a game changer despite skepticism from the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other government officials.
HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains - Thank You! Trump tweeted Saturday morning.
Hopefully they will BOTH
be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!
The president repeatedly said he has a good "feeling" about the drug at a White House press conference Friday. I feel good about it. Thats all it is. Just a feeling, he said. You know, I'm a smart guy. I feel good about it. And we're going to see. You're going to see soon enough.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/488796-trump-steps-up-effort-to-tout-malaria-drug-as-coronavirus-game
When asked on Friday if hydroxychloroquine could be used to prevent COVID-19, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the governments top infectious disease expert, replied "no."
NRaleighLiberal
(60,018 posts)captain jack
(316 posts)IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... I have said that to folks for decades, and I almost always get a, "what do you mean?", response.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,831 posts)just because there have been a few reports about this drug to the effect that it might be helpful in treating cv patients. But it hasn't been tested; there aren't any peer-reviewed studies; and it can be dangerous. Nobody knows if or to what extent it will help. It has to be tested before anything can be done with it. But Trump just wants people to think he's found the cure.
Salviati
(6,008 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)Traildogbob
(8,791 posts)Have the entire trump KKKlan spawn come out on stage for the next presser and take the drug, administered by Nancy Polosi, to verify authenticity. You know they do not want to die fron Jinuh Virus and lose their fortunes they have worked their entire lives for. So certainly they will take a drug that saves them. MAGA, Be Best. We'll see what happens!
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Stuart G
(38,439 posts).....So, in discussing this with right wingers, who say Trump is ..."smart"........,
....Use this one example to prove that Trump is ....STUPID, NOT SMART...VERY STUPID....
,,,,Use this, because people understand that Trump does not know more than the government's top
infections disease expert......Yes, This is the absolute proof to anyone that Trump is ...VERY STUPID
iluvtennis
(19,870 posts)lets support our local/state leaders and keep our familes/ourselves as safe as possible.
GumboYaYa
(5,952 posts)We have reasons to believe the drug will help at least some people both from in vitro tests and actual health care usage. Everyone should hope that is true. A doctor in France used it with great results. Others have reported that it can shorten the duration of symptoms. It has become standard of care in South Korea. In the US doctors are already prescribing it and not waiting on the FDA to approve a dosage.
I never thought I would say this, but I hope Trump is right. Even if it is not a cure all, and likely it is not, if it can help some patients, take the death rate down a bit, and relieve some pressure on our hospitals it will be a good thing.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)The article I read said that HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE doesn't work but it didn't mention it being used in those cases in combination with another drug so both reports could be right. They did say the side effects are harsh. (Also, see my post below on another possible treatment).
GumboYaYa
(5,952 posts)DallasNE
(7,403 posts)But could not relocate it. It went on to introduce the drug in the link below that they now seem to think has better promise. But not have gone through the clinical tests necessary for a recommendation and approval. They may, but not yet.
The medicine used in Ohio is the same medicine being tested, with promise, in Omaha. All are stop-gap as they only lessen the severity of covid-19. What is desperately needed is a vaccine. Basically, it is still too early to tell what ends up working best.
https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/coronavirus/university-hospitals-one-of-first-in-nation-to-begin-clinical-trials-of-antiviral-to-fight-covid-19
https://fortune.com/2020/03/20/malaria-drug-coronavirus-treatment-chloroquine-trump-musk-deadly-china/
Botany
(70,572 posts)... about the drug.
For the love of dog I want to wake up and have this never ending nightmare over.
PatSeg
(47,578 posts)If Trump "feels good about it", then go for it. After all, he IS a "smart guy". What could possibly go wrong?
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)"I'm right a lot". He is the biggest idiot in the room. And nothing demonstrates it more than yesterday's news briefing.
None of the drugs being tested represent a cure. None. A vaccine is needed for that. Indeed, a different drug is being tested at UNMC in Omaha that shows some promise of shortening hospital stays and that would at least free up beds for other sick patients. But that too is still too early. It is a drug that was tried in Ebola treatment where it was actually ineffective and discontinued, as I understand it.
What we don't need is a desperate President seeing his reelection going down the drain imposing a false treatment regiment on the medical community.
mmbrevo
(123 posts)But does he not realize that malaria is not caused by a virus?
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2435182
Figure 1Steps of the replication of different viruses affected by chloroquine (marked by red rectangles). Chloroquine inhibits the replication of different viruses either at the early or late stages of viral replication.
Chloraquine can have bad side effects. But saying its antibacterial is irrelevant to the discussion.
mmbrevo
(123 posts)Were you responding to me?
lostnfound
(16,189 posts)RockRaven
(14,990 posts)hiding behind the bullshit shield of "public interest" just because he is POTUS. The fact that he is POTUS is all the MORE reason to delete his tweets and suspend his account, imo. People will hear about this and act on it.
They should be ashamed of themselves.
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)Hell claim he never said this and the sad thing is you know it.
atreides1
(16,093 posts)If he believes in it so much...let him test on his son Barron and all of his grandchildren!!!
IronLionZion
(45,523 posts)what an asshole
Maxheader
(4,373 posts)The country folk..per the CDC community are in a bad situation...Many times
medical facility's are a long ways away and generally they are older, and not
as healthy as those in the cities...
kimbutgar
(21,182 posts)Count on it.
Nothing the orange maggot does is for the good of others. It must be killing him to act like he cares or gives a shit about the suffering of the American people.
Canoe52
(2,949 posts)C Moon
(12,221 posts)lostnfound
(16,189 posts)Talitha
(6,611 posts)He told us straight-forward:
"You know, I'm a smart guy."
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,170 posts)Unfortunately Trump believes he's the smartest man in the room.
LudwigPastorius
(9,167 posts)In this case, he's selling premature hope on the chance that his approval numbers will go up.
That is ALL he cares about, how this crisis makes him look. ...his ratings.
What a disgusting prick.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)he is such SICK piece of shit
forthemiddle
(1,382 posts)But will it lessen the symptoms, and possibly shorten the duration?
So far that seems a possibility, which is something we should all hope for!
I know if I am diagnosed, I am going to beg my doctor to try it out!