Gets off his ass and does something for the rest of the country. Not all States have as much pull with high tech and industry as California.

praised each other.

But regardless of how he behaves, others know him for what he is: petty, vengeful, bullying, sadistic -- in other words, someone who would punish an entire state of 40 million people if he took offense at our governor. Our governor doesn't have to kiss ass, but politeness is always safe.

out of Trump and if it means being polite so be it.

After all, California’s economy ranks with other countries, not just other states. Last statistic I’m aware of was - it’s got either the fifth or sixth largest economy in the world.

I’ll always love it.

someday

Did he report this?

Or perhaps you can point me to where to find this.

One of the ways Donald "Clusterfck" Trump is having his petty revenge on all things Californian early on was by sending almost no test kits to the largest state in the nation. If that wasn't quite the FU I don't know what would be.

I crossed my fingers and prayed our world-class universities would get on it -- and when Gov Newsom said they were working with him, I knew we were making progress.

CA will need results to justify federal major disaster declaration for CA that could give the state access to a billion or more in aid.

DT declared one for NY on the number of cases detected, not the number of deaths or other measures.

I have little doubt that the rates of infection in NJ metro areas like Hoboken, Newark, etc (really just part of NYC metropolitan area) are the same as in NYC. They need the same emergency aid, but they don't have the testing results to prove it.

I would think the five UC medical centers across the state could process at least 2000 per day each (University of Washington labs in Seattle have been processing 2000-4000 per day).

That would go a long way to getting things ramped up.

Not to mention Standford medical center and others. (And of course there are private labs that are increasing capacity and speed.)

If shortages are on the sample collection side, not test processing, that needs to be addressed!

(e.g., where did those 500,000 test swabs the Air Force flew in from Italy go??)

Saturday’s CA testing figure stood at 25,200 with 12,700-plus of those tests still waiting for results. https://calmatters.org/health/coronavirus/2020/03/california-coronavirus-testing-insurance-locations-rules/

Here's a great website tallying the Covid-19 infection stats by each US state and each country: https://ncov2019.live/

I had misread the 12,700 pending results figure to be in addition to the 25,200, but it's actually a subset of the figure (in other words, we have only 25,200-12,700=12,500 test RESULTS):

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If the effect of population density on the spread being seen in NY holds in CA, Los Angeles should be the focus of VERY intensive testing and containment efforts -- particularly very densely populated areas. For example:

Numbers are people per square mile.
Koreatown (43,000), Westlake (38,000), East Hollywood (31,000), Areas of Compton (highest at 32,000 per sq mi, moderate 15,000-20,000 per sq mi), Pico-Union (25,000), Maywood (23,000), Cudahy (21,000), Hollywood (22,000), Huntington Park (19,000), West Hollywood (18,297)...

Scroll down on this page for full list by neighborhood.
https://maps.latimes.com/neighborhoods/population/density/neighborhood/list/
(not loading right, but the table is intact at the bottom)

I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect the 5 major University of California medical centers to be capable of processing 5 times that (20,000 per day). (And given that the pop of CA is a little more than 5 times that of WA, that would bring CA "on par" with WA.)

Of course, our sample collection and test processing capacity in WA is still not high enough, but the current rate relative to the population makes for a good barometer of what CAN be done -- and what other states should be able to manage.

And my eyes hardly ever make tears

“He seemed quite taken aback by the huge outpouring of assistance that is flowing in in the last 24 hours.” awwwwww

YEAH BABY

And get a response to help.

Keeping Californians safe!!

Effective leadership rises to the top in crisis.

So could be positive for future leadership but also there are those pathologies that look on how they can profit and otherwise enhance their own position.

That goes for gov Pritzker in Il and gov Cuomo in NY

These guys are doing an outstanding job. Gives the entire country hope.

While Donald "Clusterfck" Trump is trying to kill us all, we have an outstanding state governor with intelligence and resources. Among those resources: billionaire entrepreneurs who recognize that they are Californians, too. I, for one, am grateful.

More people will live.

always has virus news every morning, starting at 4:30am PST. They have a paid app, but the regular website & the regular app always carry the Governor & breaking news. They also have a Twitter feed you can check.

I remember someone on DU critically commenting on Newsom's decision to shut down places of gatherings (restaurants, bars, etc) as an "experiment." This is NOT an experiment: this is dealing with a new reality.

And MARK MY WORDS...Trump and the GOP are working on putting a stop to the amazing work by leaders like Newsom.

.......for many, many reasons.

L.A. County put it more bluntly:

This is what I have been saying. There is no mystery as to how the disease is spreading.

We need to get fast results for people in hospitals as it will help free up space (if negative). People at home with mild symptoms are a low priority for a test, given where we are, because regardless of the outcome they will be advised to continue staying at home. Of course, we are people who go out and buy 40 roles of TP.

... understand speed of spread in different areas for planning/preparation.

LA has so many VERY densely populated areas that are apparently being largely ignored. There is little doubt that the incidence and speed of spread in these areas is likely akin to NYC -- and the people who live there need to know it. They need to know they must be even more careful. Anyone who is able to self-quarantine in high incidence areas, should.

Without wider testing to get more meaningful numbers, you are leaving people with a false sense that "there aren't many cases around here."

Washington state has tested more than 27,000 to date (1 per 290 people).
17,000 of those were in the past week (March 15 to March 22)
Capacity is now up to about 4000 per day (at least an additional 28,000 tests expected this week)

CA has more than 5 times the population of WA. To be equivalent to WA, they should have run 135,000 test by now.

If I were in CA I would be demanding to know why the state is lagging so far behind.

There is nothing magical about WA. A vast majority of the tests were run through the University of Washington. Sample collection was the limiting factor last week (they had the capacity to process more). Collection was ramped up over the course of the week.

CA has 5 major University of California medical centers. I don't think it would be unreasonable to expect testing capacity to be about 5 times that of the University of Washington.

At a minimum, I would expect minimum initial capacity in CA to be 12,500 tests per day (5 x UW daily average last week) with a ramp up to 20,000 per day.

Experts don't always agree on what the objective is, much less how to best achieve that objective.

All I can so for sure is that when this thing is starting to wind down, the blame game will start, with the new experts proclaiming what should've, would've, and could've been done.

... for its colossal failures in the first seven, critical, weeks.

States have been moving at lightening speed for the past 3 to make up for the fallout of those failures.

I don't mean to "blame" CA for where they are. I'm sure you're right and they are dealing with barriers. Mainly, I am just very surprised they aren't in a lot better shape on implementing some sort of more widespread, systematic, testing. I'd be curious to hear what the barriers have been and why the UC medical centers don't appear to be "on the job."

It would be fascinating to hear the arguments being made for different plans of action, including testing protocols.

I do predict calls for a new national policy on in-country sourcing of critical medical supplies. It would not be unlike what some countries did with food production, after WW2, when they realized the cannot always depend on other countries for food supplies. Of course this helped the growth in agricultural subsidies.

I have a dream that perhaps more of the nation will come out of this with a new appreciation for how interconnected we are and how much we rely on each other, as well as an appreciation for the fact that any one of us can be thrown for a loop and need a hand up. "Social safety nets" aren't just for "those people." We are all vulnerable.

Perhaps out of that we will finally be able to build the necessary political will to make some fundamental changes for the better.

And when I really get to "dreaming," I wonder if perhaps more of the top 10% might even begin to make peace with making an annual, substantial, investment in the health of the nation in the form of a wealth tax. At this point, investing in building a more equitable, stable, and resilient social system and economy could be the most effective way for them to recoup losses. (Post related to that notion here.)

Trump can't stand California or New York, but he loves being praised, I see our Governor Cuomo doing the same. If our states get what they desperately need, I could care less what they say to him.

"be nice to me or I poop in your shoes"

And what a complete failure trump and pence are at handling this now. These two can't stop lying , and the American people are running from these two now from it. Lying like they are doing only makes this worse , but they don't care and continue to promote their propaganda over the truth in a National health and financial crisis . What a disgrace to this country. Calls for their resignations are now in order. Someone who is honest and capable should be in charge of this crisis now , not these two liars.If Senator Warren was put in charge the markets would react quite well knowing that, and preventing trump from being able to interfere in any way. People in Congress need to bypass these two embecile's and place her in charge with all the powers to do this now, because these two sure can't . This crisis is too important wasting time doing this,and make the American people feel confident again, and have real leadership heading this , not serial liars. Senator Warren is the most respected and capable trusted person to handle this now , not these two idiots who can't even practice good safety practices, or stop lying to the American people on this.

Thump is way in over his head. So is pence. They both need to get the hell out of the way . Appoint one of the last experts from the last Ebola crisis immediately.

Is doing a better job at managing this mess than I’d have ever expected. I wish he would be more aggressive in shutting down non life sustaining businesses. He’s dragging his heels about it and he needs to get with it. This piecemeal approach is gonna cause more harm. Columbus and Cleveland are not small cities. Lots of spread could be avoided if he’d just do it and do it now. I applaud Gov Newsome for what he’s doing.

.. the very densely populated areas within Columbus and Cleveland.

If the trends seen in NY (cases per capita inside vs. outside NYC) hold elsewhere, densely populated areas are going to see many more cases per capita.

Some areas to watch -- and where more intense testing and containment efforts should be focused -- below (numbers of people per sq mi):

Columbus
Necko 47,000, Indiana Forest 24,000, North Campus 19,000, Luka Ravine 16,000, Old North Columbus 12,000, Weinland Park 11,000...

Cleveland
Old Brooklyn 32,000, Kamm's Corner 20,000, Mt. Pleasant, N Collinwood, Jefferson 17,000, W Blvd, Glenville, Puritas-Longmead 16,000...

1. They think creatively
2. They try
3. They don't worry about who gets the credit.

Some of the 1% are pitching in. I feel really good about that.