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icymist

(15,888 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:23 PM Mar 2020

Coronavirus: Italy becoming impatient with lockdown - and social unrest is brewing

Source: Sky News

...Progress in containing the COVID-19 spread is slow, hope and patience are fading and the economic cost is becoming ever more acute.

The strain is showing in the south of the country where one man in Apulia reportedly called police after the bank closed and they couldn't withdraw his mother's pension - their only income.

Footage shows him shouting at officers, telling them the family has no money, his mother begging them to go to their home so she could show them they have no food. It's hard to watch. It's what desperation looks like.

Another video has been shared around the country showing a father with his young daughter addressing the Italian prime minister, saying: "It's already 15-20 days that we've been inside and we're at our limit."




Read more: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-italy-becoming-impatient-with-lockdown-and-social-unrest-is-brewing-11965122



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Coronavirus: Italy becoming impatient with lockdown - and social unrest is brewing (Original Post) icymist Mar 2020 OP
It will happen here too jimfields33 Mar 2020 #1
We're social creatures; I get it. EarthFirst Mar 2020 #2
This article isn't about being social. icymist Mar 2020 #3
Well, frankly, Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #4
Having the money would be okay. Igel Mar 2020 #6
Agreed madeup64 Mar 2020 #5
People in England are complaining about a police state but BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #7
I just started rereading The Diary of Anne Frank Raine Mar 2020 #11
When I locked our house down, I talked about Anne Frank with the family rainin Mar 2020 #18
I can see a scenario which Jimbo S Mar 2020 #8
Rally against ... what? The virus? Protest at the Capitol? Is that where the virus makes plans? PSPS Mar 2020 #9
Rally against closures. Or rally to the uncaring christx30 Mar 2020 #12
It's the "rally against closures" that makes no sense PSPS Mar 2020 #13
Fighting windmills Sunriser13 Mar 2020 #14
Rally against business closures Jimbo S Mar 2020 #20
Why? To get people out early and give the virus more targets? Kill more people? No thanks. PSPS Mar 2020 #21
Why? Jimbo S Mar 2020 #22
I'm fairly certain the relief bill offers no help for the undocumented rainin Mar 2020 #10
I've been thinking about this a lot. As many as 12M people with no income flibbitygiblets Mar 2020 #15
Republicans love to starve the undocumented rainin Mar 2020 #17
I met this shop owner in Venice 4 years ago and we became Facebook friends kimbutgar Mar 2020 #16
Is anyone surprised?? EllieBC Mar 2020 #19

jimfields33

(15,908 posts)
1. It will happen here too
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:26 PM
Mar 2020

I’m surprised at how everyone is doing so well. It’s good to see. Of course there’s a percentage not doing what they need to but overall everyone seems to be at home.

EarthFirst

(2,901 posts)
2. We're social creatures; I get it.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

However if we want to continue socializing; we need to make some short term sacrifices and hold it together awhile longer.

Have faith; courage and patience.

We’ll get through this! Together.

Mr.Bill

(24,312 posts)
4. Well, frankly,
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

if more people here didn't have the money to buy 500 rolls of toilet paper and 200 bottles of hand sanitizer, that would be a good thing.

BigmanPigman

(51,623 posts)
7. People in England are complaining about a police state but
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:57 PM
Mar 2020

Jonathan Pie set them straight......



I like to think of Anne Frank and how her family was hiding and starving in their cold, cramped attic. Then she was taken to Auschwitz and found a new level of misery that made the attic looked like a faraway dream. I have my little dog, my 500 sq ft apt, a stocked fridge and good health right now (knock wood) and it is sheer heaven. I was in the hospital, very ill and in pain and not knowing why on more than one occasion. Yes, this is heaven right now for me.

Stay home for all those who have no choice and are risking their lives for us.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
11. I just started rereading The Diary of Anne Frank
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:39 AM
Mar 2020

a few days ago as a reminder to keep things in prospective.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
18. When I locked our house down, I talked about Anne Frank with the family
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:20 PM
Mar 2020

We are hiding from a threat that could kill us. The family had to endure so much uncertainty and fear, and still try to maintain some normalcy. We are so dependent on our government handling this crisis well. tRump is going to kill so many of us. It's so tragic.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
8. I can see a scenario which
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

working people and small business owners form protest groups and rally, maybe as soon as the end of April. Here in Wisconsin, restaurant dining-in is cancelled, non-essential businesses closed going on twelve days now. I wouldn't be surprised to see protests at the state Capitol on the same level as the anti-Walker rallies back in 2011. People will be itching to get back to work and earn money.

PSPS

(13,608 posts)
9. Rally against ... what? The virus? Protest at the Capitol? Is that where the virus makes plans?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:06 AM
Mar 2020

We're all on this ride and really have no control over it other than to avoid catching and spreading the disease no matter how long it takes. I'm sure the various republican politicians will hammer the "grandma's life versus having sit-down service in McDonald's" nonsense and maybe it will "work." I certainly hope not. Some places tried it in 1918 too and, well, it didn't work out very well at all.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
12. Rally against closures. Or rally to the uncaring
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:13 AM
Mar 2020

attitude from Washington. The longer this goes, the more uncertain people are of their futures. Will I be able to make rent? Will I be able to send my kids to college? How bad are things going to be? People aren’t drones. You can’t just give them orders and expect them to follow them unquestionably. “Well, too bad, deal with it” isn’t acceptable.
I’m lucky that I get to work from home at my normal pay. I’m in a way better position than most people right now. If I was laid off because of this thing, I’d be terrified. And I’d know that $1,300 is nothing whatsoever. It’s peanuts. It’s a crumb. One paycheck of mine.
They are protesting for answers. Give them more than condescension and lectures.

PSPS

(13,608 posts)
13. It's the "rally against closures" that makes no sense
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 08:18 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe it might make some people "feel better" but, face it, it's kind of like "rally against the wind" or "rally against the moon." The timing of the closures is up to the virus, not the politicians.

As for the one-time stimulus checks, you're absolutely right. This will be going on for at least a couple more months. Experience in China and South Korea has demonstrated this. It won't be shorter anywhere else just because it's a different country. Our experience will probably be worse because of trump's intentional mishandling of his office, which may further lengthen the time required. In any case, everyone is well aware of the inadequacy of a one-time stimulus and democrats will introduce other bills for monthly payments for at least a while. It may be futile with Moscow Mitch in the way but even he may sing a different tune as the body count in kentucky goes up.

Sunriser13

(612 posts)
14. Fighting windmills
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:52 AM
Mar 2020
Maybe it might make some people "feel better" but, face it, it's kind of like "rally against the wind" or "rally against the moon." The timing of the closures is up to the virus, not the politicians.


Rallies and protests would do nothing but make more people sick, and possibly even extend the time needed to "flatten the curve" so the country can begin moving toward our new normal.

But I do worry for so many during this time...

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
20. Rally against business closures
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:01 PM
Mar 2020

Rally against the Governor(s). I don't see this as a Republican/Democratic issue. People furloughed need to work eventually. This can go on only for so long before people start to panic/get anxious//get frustrated/etc. People in rural areas under the same "stay-at-home" order as the urban areas, even thought the rural northern half of the state has relatively few cases. Enough resentment already exists in rural Wisconsin against urban Wisconsin.

PSPS

(13,608 posts)
21. Why? To get people out early and give the virus more targets? Kill more people? No thanks.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 01:26 AM
Mar 2020

"Rural areas" aren't immune to this, you know. They will go through the same thing, just later.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
22. Why?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 12:39 PM
Mar 2020

The longer goes, the more anxious furloughed workers will get regarding losing their livelihoods. I was watching the Wisconsin Foodie on television Sunday and he stated as it stands now, 30% of the restaurants will never re-open. The longer it goes, even more businesses are dead. At what point do you determine destroying American families isn't worth it?

I'm aware rural areas have been exposed, but it is no where the same level as the urban areas. Those areas don't have the same population densities, social distancing is already built in. However, the one thing with the rural counties is they don't have the medical capacities.


rainin

(3,011 posts)
10. I'm fairly certain the relief bill offers no help for the undocumented
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:14 AM
Mar 2020

They will need food, too.

I hope our legislators consider what is happening in this video and make sure that EVERYONE can provide for their families. Who wouldn't steal to get food for a loved one?

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
15. I've been thinking about this a lot. As many as 12M people with no income
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:01 AM
Mar 2020

I can't believe that every Repug in the senate, and most in the house, would vote to include them.

Imagine facing no income, no money for food or shelter or medicine.

They'll do what they've always done: Go to the jobs that others can't or won't do. Picking in the fields. Working in restaurants and construction. CV19 will spread through their families, and they'll add to the healthcare crisis.

Alternate nightmare scenario: They'll be competing with US citizens for the few remaining jobs, and we'll have 12 million or so homeless, starving undocumented people on the streets of the US. ICE will sweep them up and drop them off at the border.

It's inhuman and just plain stupid to not include them in any relief right now.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
17. Republicans love to starve the undocumented
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:15 PM
Mar 2020

They think that as long as we deny them food, housing, and medical care, they will leave. I'll never understand why they can't see them as human beings with value. I would work, and live alongside them over a tRumper any day.

kimbutgar

(21,174 posts)
16. I met this shop owner in Venice 4 years ago and we became Facebook friends
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:50 AM
Mar 2020

He has been posting his responses and even though I don’t read Italian I do google translations and the situation has really been escalating from his posts. They are pissed and think the government is failing them big time. It has been interesting reading his posts the last two weeks. They are angry and desperate and people are dying in droves in their communities. The one word in the posts that is prevalent is morti (death in Italian).

EllieBC

(3,031 posts)
19. Is anyone surprised??
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

I admittedly rolled my eyes when everyone was sharing the video of Italians singing from their windows. It was on what day? Day 3 of lockdown? Of course they were still handling it well.

We need treatments and the na vaccine. And the vax needs to be mandatory. Because people will not do this for months.

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