Netanyahu to set "clear red line" for Iran in U.N. speech
Source: Reuters
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will set out, in his speech at the United Nations on Thursday, an ultimatum for Iran to halt its disputed nuclear drive or risk coming under military attack, an Israeli official said.
Netanyahu faces the world body after U.S. President Barack Obama disappointed some Israelis, in his own address to the annual assembly, by not calling for a deadline to be imposed on Tehran - though he did say time for diplomacy "is not unlimited".
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"The prime minister will set a clear red line in his speech that will not contradict Obama's remarks. Obama said Iran won't have nuclear weapons. The prime minister will clarify the way in which Iran won't have nuclear arms," a senior Israeli official said en route to New York, without elaborating.
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Speaking on Israel Radio, Ayalon said the Netanyahu government and Obama administration were in discreet contacts and approaching agreement on setting limits for Iran.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/27/us-un-assembly-israel-iran-idUSBRE88Q0GI20120927
In 2003, MIT wrote in it's report "The Future of Nuclear Power":
challenges described abovecosts, safety, proliferation, and wastes. These
challenges will escalate if a significant number of new nuclear generating
plants are built in a growing number of countries. The effort to overcome
these challenges, however, is justified only if nuclear power can potentially
contribute significantly to reducing global warming, which entails major
expansion of nuclear power.
It's now clear that NONE of those four "challenges" have been overcome,
and it's unlikely they ever will.
It's also clear that there won't be a major expansion of nuclear power,
primarily because of cost.
There's no reason for preserving nuclear power as an option for the future.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Last edited Sat Sep 29, 2012, 03:41 AM - Edit history (2)
that refuses to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is going to go to the UN to call for an unproved war against an NPT compliant state brilliant! The war mongers are going to be excited.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)That's why there are UN sanctions against it - to urge it to come into compliance.
The UN sanctions aren't working.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)all the rules they demand other countries abide by.
Sorry, Netanyahu is a liar and a bully and Americans very much resent his interfering in the business of the US and especially with his outrageous attempts to involve our military, our troops in war HE will completely responsible for, not Iran, Netanyahu, if such a disaster happens.
He needs to learn his place, he is not an elected US official. He is NOT president of the US.
We have a president who has made his position clear and which apparently Netanyahu is refusing to respect.
NO War with Iran and if this administration allows itself to be bullied into such a disaster by a nobody as far as the American people are concerned, it will result in a final break-up of the Dem Party to which many people are still barely clinging as the only alternative to the rabid, Netanyahu supporters on the far right.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Last time I checked. Edit: they like having it both ways, as who does not?
Edit: so they (Israel) are not exactly breaking any rules, and neither is Iran; but Iran signed the NPT, and so is obligated not to make nuclear weapons, but is entitled to have nuclear energy as a consequence (according to the NPT.)
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)The problem could be solved by disarming all Nuclear States, NOT by trying to stop one country from having nukes. That does nothing to ensure the safety of the world. Israel is not the only country in the world threatened by Nuclear war.
The issue should be disarming all of them. Either that, or all countries should have nukes, making it less likely that any of them will be willing to use them.
Deuce
(959 posts)movonne
(9,623 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Frankly approaching Iran - or any nation - as a rabid dog in need of a good whipping isn't going to ever work. Period.
ronnie624
(5,764 posts)noncompliance with Tehrans safeguards agreement, nor referred these issues to the U.N. Security
Council. The IAEA board adopted a resolution November 27, 2009, that described Irans failure
to notify the agency of the Fordow facility as inconsistent with the subsidiary arrangements
under Irans safeguards agreement, but this statement did not constitute a formal finding of
noncompliance. A September 13, 2012, IAEA board resolution expressed serious concern that
Tehran has not complied with the obligations described in IAEA Board of Governors and U.N.
Security Council resolutions, but the September resolution did not contain a formal finding of
noncompliance.
[link:http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R40094.pdf|
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)The sanctions against Iran are mostly military related as well as related to prevention of the weaponization of the nuclear program(no problems with that from me). They are not a declaration that the nuclear program is illegal as it is, or that the NPT is being violated. There would not have been enough signatories otherwise.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)and the US is one of the two main belligerents in this case it's the foxes guarding the hen house. The sanctions are a hate crime.
Here's what the results of this hate crime will look like if the bigots get their way:
IRAQ ISN'T ANCIENT HISTORY
The US dominated the UN Security Council against Iraq also. The White House supported the same extreme racist slim back then. The US systematically destroyed in a genocidal manner the Iraqi people from 1990 onward. Iran is next if the same people get their way.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)I'm so used to seeing those bug gismos that earlier when I had a real one same size on my computer screen I thought "fuck me - that's clever"
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)we should all agree to stop looking toward nuclear energy as a solution to our problems. It should not even be a part of the solution.
As the plants in the US age, we should shut them down, one by one, and not rebuild them. What to do with the nuclear waste? That we have no answer to that question is one of the reasons we need to shut them down and not build any more.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Then Netanyahu's party wouldn't express a fear of destruction by Iran by nuclear weapons, too.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)we wouldn't have gone to war in Iraq.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)down memory lane with the lies which were told here in the UK.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)is unassociated with what became worldwide tragic joke.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Running out of ideas, are we?
JohnnyBoots
(2,969 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_missile_crisis
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Cynicism at its worst.
tama
(9,137 posts)had tried to invade Cuba (Bay of Pigs).
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)After that Cuba took some simple precautions. When I first went there I couldn't figure why there were so many bridges over roads which didn't go anywhere either side. It was later explained to me that they prevent movement of heavy military vehicles by road.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Every last president in my lifetime, which started with Dwight Eisenhower, have committed crimes worse than any occupant of any prison in the US.
That's an interesting fact about Cuba.
adigal
(7,581 posts)and if we go to war with them, I will declare 10 dependents on my taxes and refuse to pay one cent more in taxes at tax time.
OnlinePoker
(5,723 posts)It won't work otherwise.
adigal
(7,581 posts)You can declare up to 10 dependent so you don't pay a lot during the year. And actually, my point is to force the issue publicly.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Much well-deserved ridicule coming his way for that choice, I would imagine.
Megahurtz
(7,046 posts)it's getting pretty stinky waaaaaaaaaaaa...
RainDog
(28,784 posts)for at least the last four prez elections?
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)Seriously though, this has been going on for over ten years, at least. I have a documented list of articles, as well as DU threads, that stretch back to 2002. They seem to happen in March, June, August, Sept/October, and something usually pops up in December.