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There was a person (forget her name) talking about authoritarians / fascists:

They don't joke - they keep taking more and more power. Normal people tend to think they will "settle down" or are just bluster but they not - it's how they continue to keep and grow their power.

This is some sick, sick stuff happening... scary times.

that by the time most American wake up its to late they have the power and will use it to keep you in your place. Look at the nations that the Nazis overran ( and those who opposed Hitler in Germany) and the price they paid when some of the citizen fought back. The time to stop them is now!!

Ben-Ghiat has been thinking about these words as Election Day nears. On the stump, Trump keeps saying that order will be restored on January 20th, as soon as he takes office. “He means everything he says,” Ben-Ghiat said. “Authoritarians never pivot.”

A lot of people are gonna be liberated from living.

Tying a call to "liberate" (a verb, e.g., action) to the 2nd amendment...is clear as day, is it not?

(which has to be 'peacefully').

So, yes, this is a call to arms. This is an attempt to stir up an armed rebellion. This is potentially treason. Certainly impeachable.

Its the first thing that came to my mind
Then anger
Then hatred
Then fear
Then defense

you notice he didn't speak of the First Amendment "Freedom of Speech" in addressing Virginia, he intentionally mentioned the "Second amendment". People could let him slide on quoting the 1st, but by him quoting the 2nd, there is no way........

And look at the video of his Trumphumpers showing up at the Michigan Capital, many fully armed. I think they were ready and primed to be martyrs for their cause when the police moved in to stop them. I'm sure the Governor told them to stand down, and to not provoke them into firing "the shot heard round he world".....
I can only imagine that the police had a number of snipers positioned out of sight, in case they were needed.

Putin is directing this from afar, staying squeaky clean, directing Trump and the RepubliCons do the work.
This morning's tweets are nothing less than an INSURRECTION: an act of revolting against civil authority or an established government. And an act of SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority...........

I think we are about to see a repeal by Trump and the RepubliCons, of the Posse Comatadus Act, Bush/Cheney tried to repeal it and failed. Or maybe they will just skip that Rule of Law and go straight to "their interpretation" of Martial Law?????

They are turning a national/worldwide crisis into an opportunity to speed their agenda ahead.
And of course allow Jared and his Trailer Trash Barbie a wide open opportunity to Grift to their little hearts desire...

staffs (for stealing supplies!)--and the media--and the Chinese--and the Germans--and voters who want paper ballots--and, and, and.

But not a single Repug will hold Fat Donnie accountable for his inaction during the beginning of the GOPvirus. They have bought into Trump's "It's all the WHO's fault -- they probably let it happen intentionally, or are responsible for it in the first place" narrative.

Meanwhile, more Americans die. I hope the Democratic governors hold their ground. I know our governor -- Newsom of California -- and Cuomo will continue to tell him to go fuck himself.

is our militia says the Constitution, they can be put in place and used as needed.

This POS is and has been inciting violence for a long time.

He knows he will end up in prison.

Trump's getting crazier and more dangerous by the hour. If only there were people around him to invoke the 25th. Sadly, the ones left are ass-kissing sycophants.

be more dangerous! How many deaths will he have on his hands before this is over?

LIBERATED!!

a Democratic President (not saying these crimes would be committed by one) he would be gone or his ass impeached, oh wait a minute.

If there's one thing Trump fears, it's Joe Biden. If there's one thing he fears worse, it's Biden-Whitmer 2020

And many of us here might consider venturing onto Craigslist Community and flagging posts by these Gucci-suited Pyramid Marketing Scheme protestors. Doesn't even take an account. They sure are targeting anything liberal that's posted.

He's ginning up anger toward Dem governors (and by extension the party itself) in the hopes that it will:

1. Divert blame from himself

2. Sow seeds of resentment toward the Democratic Party in hopes of turning enough people to flip or keep battleground states in his column.

I don't care if they have truth on their side, these governors need to hire some world class spin doctors to craft a successful message to fend this off because, once it's burned into folks brains that the D's did this to them, it's going to be near impossible to deprogram them by November.

Truth being lost is one of the things that upsets me most about the times we live in. Trump can contradict himself from one minute to the next and they give him a pass, but if a lie about Dems gets started it never dies.

..... the point of the "Trump Liberations" he will deny ANY increase in CV-19 cases and say they had it BEFORE he "liberated" the state.

At that point, only models and data could prove him wrong and his cult is incapable of understanding either model and /or data.

Every F...ing thing he does has plausible deniability built-in. "It wasn't me! I don't take any responsibility!".

He is one evil SOB.

I was wondering if I was the only person contemplating this but apparently not.

Psycho. He argues with himself, and loses every argument.

He's turning it from the virus being the reason for stay at home measures to it's your democrat governor being a tyrant. It's the new narrative, and the sheaple are buying it.

ways of bringing you in line". (Only partially condensed and paraphrased, except for the exact "WE" part.

Right now, Trump's only chance to get reelected is to ruin the election.
One approach is to create violence and chaos in Blue States, using his base as a weapon to do this, much as Hitler used his brown shirts in Nazi Germany.
His ultimate goal is to force early opening of the economy and watch the second wave wash the nation just before the election.

That's why they don't want widespread testing. High infection numbers will make it harder to force a reopening of the economy. The later the economy reopens, the later a second wave of infections will come in, and that could possibly happen too late to damage the election.

The Republicans still think a light election turnout can help them win battleground states and capture enough electoral votes to win reelection.
They're willing to trade tens of thousands of American lives for a victory in the election.

I think Wisconsin was a test for the concept of light turnout. I believe the Republicans are adjusting their tactics based on the failure of their efforts in Wisconsin.

It looks like violence will be their next approach.

Our nation has never been is such great peril as it is right now. The future of the Republic is at stake, as is the freedom of all Americans.

It's ironic that the slogan of the Trumpistas, "Freedom is Essential", represents the last thing Trump would ever want to flourish in America.
The people holding those signs are the useful idiots that are being used to further Trump's aims, and eventually take away the thing these idiots claim to be protecting.
Of course, once Trump consolidates power after winning the election, the useful idiots become much less useful.

This is an old story, played out countless times throughout history.
Get the idiots to destroy the nation, and then take control under the guise of offering the people what they want, even though it will never be what they actually get.

When will they ever learn?

You dont even have to read between the lines

Im off to target practice now

What a divider! Makes me sick, sicker than any actual virus.

will they trample each other to be first?

Strutting around deliberately going the wrong way down one-way aisles with no PPE and so forth.

Openly saying, "Look! I'm not sick. It's all a hoax perpetrated to punish the High Dow and ultimately the Trumpenfuehrer!"

What they don't realize is the only reason they aren't sick is because most of the people by following the guidelines are protecting them! Irony, you died too soon.

Please

This is truly INSANE!! Inciting insurrection? Armed rebellion? Crazy as a shithouse rat.

Dems have to do more than just condemn it. Restart impeachment hearings, I don't care how close we are to the election. He is a great danger to the country, and humanity in general.

I want to see a reporter (or all of them) at his daily campaign rally ask about this, even if he calls it a nasty question and leaves.

Speechless.

Should we begin with the places they congregate, like the chamber of commerce?

As long as trumps in office they'll be no united states if America. Anther dirty tricks ruse he and stone have used before .

The last time we were this divided it cost the lives of almost a million people to keep it together and, let's be honest, today's couch potato, instant gratification Americans just don't have the wherewithal to put up a sustained fight to keep us together this time.

The deplorables are dug in too deep and Trump has given them the 'all clear' to be their true selves. Putting that genie back in the bottle is damn near impossible.

Maybe some here can be more positive about it but I just don't see how to bridge this chasm when the other side keeps making it wider.

Yes, he is trying to start a civil war. Or is he just so dumb he doesn't know what that would actually be like? And then the mind takes it from there, snaking through many labyrinthine courses, before I turn away and try to enjoy my life.

200 days until election day.
https://www.270towin.com/2020-countdown-clock/

and we haven't had a mass shooting in a while...

Lazy ass hats that prefer to sit in their recliners and watch fux. Dem governors are ignoring him and going about the business of running their states and protecting the people.

and continue to host large social gatherings, church services, go to the grocery store every day without a mask, and otherwise rebel against their Dem governors. I wish they would sit in their recliners at home

To happen. Look at the dotard rally goers...you really think they are going to make a hardened military force?

I told my German cousins 5 years ago that 'something didn't seem right in the US' , felt like there might be a civil war.
They looked at me like I was crazy. In the US? nah!

well, Trump is fueling something and it is not good.

one called it 'tyranny.' I reminded that Taxation with Representation is TYRANNY,' like in DC suffers!

Others weren't as fortunate.




https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-politics/8251160/Arizona-shooting-Have-Sarah-Palins-election-chances-been-damaged.html

... oh, look, now they say "liberate" when they really, really most likely mean the exact opposite - like maybe assassinate

Boy Trump is on quite the warpath against
people in his own country. Or maybe they
don't really live in his country; they are the
enemy, and his real country is Russia
anyway.

The destruction of democracy to be replaced with oligarchy. The brown shirt
trumpanistas are useful cannon fodder. Even if he thinks otherwise, drumph himself
is only playing a role and can be discarded when the time comes. Moscow mitch on the
other hand.

Trump is a useful idiot, nothing more.

why didn't he mention them?

and the governor can get an arrest warrant.

Now that fast and cost-effective mass testing is available, get cracking on a national rollout ASAP!

If EVERYONE can be tested, the infected can be ID'd and quarantined on the FRONT side of the "curve" -- and you really COULD have the entire U.S. reopened by summertime!


rocktivity

With regard to "ID and quarantine," the demonstration of the presence of CV genetic material (an active infection) is really what's needed. Antibodies *could* be present in a person who no longer has the CV in his/her/their body; quarantine of those folks is counterproductive: without the virus in their body, such a person has no possibility of infecting someone else with CV.

Because the biology of this novel (to humans) infectious agent is still replete with unknowns, there is no guarantee that the presence of anti-CV antibodies actually indicates that the person is *protected* against reinfection -- let alone that they've actually cleared the virus from their system and are no longer infectious. Additionally, someone who's infected, but asymptomatic, might not yet have antibodies to the virus, yet could very well be infectious at the time of testing for the presence of antibodies.

A positive antibody test does indicate, quite reliably, that they had been infected by CV, but at this time -- from a scientific, immunological, and epidemiological perspective -- there's really no guarantee (on the basis of that particular test alone) that they're safe to go back to "life as before."

Testing a huge percentage of the population for active infection (rather than just for antibodies) is really what's needed, then, in order to be sure we're not just unleashing another wave of infection by lifting physical distancing measures.

(Caveat: just my opinion, based in part on an M.S., immunology; and a postdoc, molecular virology.)

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The FDA approval is the second major announcement in recent days from RUCDR, which also launched a genetic testing service for the coronavirus that can test thousands of samples daily. With the new saliva test, that number may increase to tens of thousands of samples daily.

This is domestic terrorism.

is that there's about 36% of voters that buy into this crap.

he should be in hand-cuffs, perp-walked out of the People's House, and straight into jail.

If I were one of those Governors, I'd put State and National Guards on alert, but not assemble them. I guess Trump could poach them, but that would be telling.

Nancy, time for a second Impeachment.

#Impeachment No. 2

He just threatened to close the Congress, and now he's calling for armed rebellion against states that are critical to his reelection. He's bat shit crazy.

He's taking counsel from Putin.

Do the best you can, people. You certainly do not have to follow Trump's ill-advised, asinine advice to expose yourselves to CV-19. Let him and his whole gang of thugs and family expose themselves. Maybe we'll get lucky. Gee, I'll pray for them...

That’s the flimsy excuse for Trump not speaking out against these rabid scofflaws. That’s it. It’s all about Fatso’s ego.

trump's effort to ignite a second civil war needs to be met with forceful resistance.

Meanwhile, a serious implementation of an Article 25 removal from office effort needs to be commenced immediately.

Enough of this bullshit.

If there is no response from republicans he will see it as a green light to escalate this type of attack. I believe that trump is going to start making bigger moves to test his base. How far will they go. He knows that if he loses in nov he's probably going to prison.

If I were on twitter and used the words...
"Liberate the White House...save your second amendment!" ( and 1 and 3 through 28). my account would be terminated.

If someone gets killed over this, it's not just on Trump's Tiny Orange Hands, it's on Jack Dorsey's Hands, also.

Time we held HIM responsible.

ARs and virus protection disregard . Sounds like some kind of violent zombie shit show for sure the WH is stirring up .
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Those tweets were a call to his minions who showed up with guns and possibly the coronavirus. That is inciting a war IMHO.

he is criminally insane.

is Congress null and void????