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sabra

(30,404 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:22 PM Sep 2012

'Drunken' Broker Sent Oil to 8-Month High in 2009: Report

Source: CNBC

On June 30, 2009, oil mysteriously jumped by more than $1.50 a barrel during the night, to reach its highest price in eight months, the kind of swing that is caused by a major geopolitical event.

The amazing, true cause of this price spike has now been released by a Financial Services Authority investigation (FSA).

Although not authorized to invest company cash in trades, Steve Perkins, a long standing, senior broker at PVM Oil Futures, had managed to spend $520 million on oil futures contracts throughout the night, the FSA said.

On the morning of the 30th, an admin clerk called Perkins to ask why he had bought 7 million barrels of crude during the night. Perkins had no recollection of the transactions, and it turned out that he had made the trades during a “drunken blackout," according to the FSA.

By the time PVM realized the transactions had not been authorized by a client, they had incurred losses of $9,763,252.

...

The FSA has said that they will re-approve his license after the five-year period, if he has recovered from his drinking problem, although they warned that,“Mr Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk.”

Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/49197769

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'Drunken' Broker Sent Oil to 8-Month High in 2009: Report (Original Post) sabra Sep 2012 OP
...and we paid the price. yardwork Sep 2012 #1
Perhaps Microsoft should repurpose Clippy for commodities traders. salvorhardin Sep 2012 #2
One more reason Pab Sungenis Sep 2012 #3
fuck me frylock Sep 2012 #4
Why reapprove his license at all? He's a danger to too many people. nt valerief Sep 2012 #5
Who would hire him? Or give him the passwords to the trading gadget thingy if they do hire him? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2012 #12
I don't believe it, it's always some little guy's fault in financial fraud-land. just1voice Sep 2012 #6
Maybe you'd prefer this link? LiberalAndProud Sep 2012 #11
It's that old familiar "a few bad apples" narrative rudycantfail Sep 2012 #20
how heaven05 Sep 2012 #23
Free market baby! progressoid Sep 2012 #7
+1 oldsarge54 Sep 2012 #13
Aren't they all drunk, high and sex-crazed?! Dont call me Shirley Sep 2012 #8
You saw "Inside Job," didn't you? Brigid Sep 2012 #16
TWI ?!? FSA should not give this guy back his license! FailureToCommunicate Sep 2012 #9
On the upside, his treatment was covered by his HMO. bluedigger Sep 2012 #10
Just posted something about this Saviolo Sep 2012 #14
nope heaven05 Sep 2012 #26
One Drunken Fool, Amongst All the Greedy, Power-Mad Trades Demeter Sep 2012 #15
WWHSS? slackmaster Sep 2012 #17
This is an example of how oil price is manipulated Hutzpa Sep 2012 #18
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2012 #30
He got caught Hutzpa Sep 2012 #31
Capitalism has failed us repeatedly and nobody seems to see it for what it is. craigmatic Sep 2012 #19
unregulated capitism has failed us.... madrchsod Sep 2012 #21
For some reason this song went through my mind when I read this... KansDem Sep 2012 #22
Excellent! Brigid Sep 2012 #25
Did the price ever go back down? n/t Oilwellian Sep 2012 #24
Same question. tridim Sep 2012 #27
The flip side of this was that (FANTASTIC) time when Obama and the EU agreed to simultaneously TrollBuster9090 Sep 2012 #29
That's just "The Invisible Hand of the Market" working. Libertarians should be proud. TrollBuster9090 Sep 2012 #28
The invisible "drunken" Hand of the Free Market. n/t fasttense Sep 2012 #32
Although not authorized to invest company cash in trades, (he)...managed to spend $520,000,000 mikeytherat Sep 2012 #33
but...but...but....the only reason gas ever goes up is because Obama hates Uh-Murka K8-EEE Sep 2012 #34
OK, so what was up with the 4 cent jump in gasoline last week? TrogL Sep 2012 #35

salvorhardin

(9,995 posts)
2. Perhaps Microsoft should repurpose Clippy for commodities traders.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:32 PM
Sep 2012

"It looks like you're trying to trade hundreds of millions of dollars of commodities while you're drunk. I'm just going to disable your internet connection for a little while."

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
6. I don't believe it, it's always some little guy's fault in financial fraud-land.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:42 PM
Sep 2012

I'm not going to click on cnbc's site either, cnbc is mainstream media propaganda.

How'd the guy get authorization to trade? Who's his manager? Who owns the company and who benefited from the "drunken" actions? Who did the guy make the trades through, what broker? Doesn't the broker have limits?

Too many real questions that aren't answered.

 

rudycantfail

(300 posts)
20. It's that old familiar "a few bad apples" narrative
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:44 PM
Sep 2012

that we're told to believe again. The narrative says the problem's not systemic and not even criminal. Heck, the guy didn't even know what he was doing.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
16. You saw "Inside Job," didn't you?
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:18 PM
Sep 2012

Seems like those conditions are endemic in those circles. And yet law enforcement goes bonkers over a few MJ plants in somebody's back yard.

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
14. Just posted something about this
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

In General Discussion

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021407978

And was a little surprised to be told that I was overreacting a little. My big shock was that one person had enough sway over the global price of oil that he could change the price by $1.50/barrel globally in half an hour.

But the brokerages and large corporations want to be deregulated further? They all collectively have their twitchy finger over the same button, and they want to take the safety catch away. No deal.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
26. nope
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:16 PM
Sep 2012

you are NOT overreacting. Under reaction, and we keep paying exorbitant prices. I was looking at a monthly gas bill from feb 2000, cold time here, 48.00 fucking bucks. last february 303.00. overreacting, no. Someone made millions from this bastards drunken spree. They got the gold mine, we got the shaft, per Willie Nelson and very true.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
15. One Drunken Fool, Amongst All the Greedy, Power-Mad Trades
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:14 PM
Sep 2012

and that's the one they get upset about...because they didn't profit.

Call a big CFTC investigation because oil fell last week...it wasn't on the schedule.

This nonsense and gambling has got to stop.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
18. This is an example of how oil price is manipulated
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:25 PM
Sep 2012

by brokers. In that case we can assume that most brokers are drunk most of the time then if that's the
excuse they want to use.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
30. +1
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 08:05 PM
Sep 2012

I don't believe one word of that "drunken" bullshit...He was obeying orders and knew exactly what he was doing...

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
31. He got caught
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
Sep 2012

hence the drunken BS lie. Those agents that was with him needs to answer some questions too;

How did they know he was drunk?

Did they find him drunk?

Where was he when they found him?

These are just a few that comes to mind based on their report.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
22. For some reason this song went through my mind when I read this...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:58 PM
Sep 2012


Only with these lyrics:

What do you do with a drunken broker?
What do you do with a drunken broker?
What do you do with a drunken broker?
Early in the morning!

Way hay and up go prices
Way hay and up go prices
Way hay and up go prices
Early in the morning!

Stick him in a barrel of o'er-priced oil
Stick him in a barrel of o'er-priced oil
Stick him in a barrel of o'er-priced oil
Early in the morning

Way hay and up go prices
Way hay and up go prices
Way hay and up go prices
Early in the morning!


And so on...

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
29. The flip side of this was that (FANTASTIC) time when Obama and the EU agreed to simultaneously
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:40 PM
Sep 2012

release their strategic oil reserves when oil prices hit their peak, and the supply level was at it's lowest, and commodity futures speculators leveraged everything they could get their hands on to buy futures, betting on the price going up.

Then BOOM the oil reserves are released and the price drops, and bankrupts many of them.

Dodd-Frank was (theoretically) supposed to stop that kind of speculation, but since the regulators who are charged with doing it refuse to, that was a pretty clever move. A move designed SPECIFICALLY to break the backs of many speculators who were deliberately driving the price UP, and make others think twice about doing it in future.

If you're going to constantly be accused of being a Chicago thug, you may as well act like one. Frankly, people ADMIRE thugs, especially when they take on OTHER thugs in the interests of the people.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
28. That's just "The Invisible Hand of the Market" working. Libertarians should be proud.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 06:35 PM
Sep 2012

Either that, or the invisible hand of Jack Daniels, and the VISIBLE hand of some commodities broker wanking all over his computer keyboard.

mikeytherat

(6,829 posts)
33. Although not authorized to invest company cash in trades, (he)...managed to spend $520,000,000
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 08:38 AM
Sep 2012

Not authorized to invest company cash, yet can still get his hands on HALF A BILLION DOLLARS from the company? Must have been from the "Take a Penny/Leave a Penny" dish near the cash register.

And if you pull my leg, it plays "Jingle Bells."

mikey_the_rat

K8-EEE

(15,667 posts)
34. but...but...but....the only reason gas ever goes up is because Obama hates Uh-Murka
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 02:03 PM
Sep 2012

And he won't let us DRILL BABY DRILL! That's what they say on Fox so it must be true!

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