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riversedge

(70,289 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:18 PM Apr 2020

Alaska school board removes 'The Great Gatsby,' 'I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings' from curriculum ov

Source: the hill





By Aris Folley - 04/28/20 08:41 PM EDT
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A school board in Matanuska-Susitna, Alaska, has voted to remove famous written works like Maya Angelou’s “I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings” and F. Scott Fitzgerald’s “The Great Gatsby” from the curriculum for elective high school english courses, citing their “controversial” content.


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A flier was reportedly given to members of the school board by the school district that laid out summaries of each of the books and listed reasons for which each of the works were being challenged.

The flier said Angelou’s book had been challenged because it contained “sexually explicit material, such as the sexual abuse the author suffered as a child, and its ‘antiwhite’ messaging.”

“The Great Gatsby” was challenged due to its “language and sexual references,” the flier stated, and the “Invisible Man” was challenged due to content containing “language, rape and incest.”

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Dianne K. Shibe, who serves as president of the Mat-Su Education Association teachers union, told NBC News that many in the local community were surprised by the vote by the school board.

However, she said the move is “not set in stone” and that the union will be calling on the board to revisit their vote.

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But, since that vote, a local bookstore owner told the news agency that copies of those books from flying off her shelves.

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“Our biggest outpouring of support are people buying the books and donating them or leaving them to us to distribute for free,” she added.

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/495174-alaska-school-board-removes-the-great-gatsby-i-know-why-the-caged-bird



Some days I can't believe it is 2020!!--but then I am reminded of conservatives when I see crap like this!
I have both of these books on my shelf and being in WI we are are still at #stayhome mandate. I am going to give one to my niece. she is bored. No school. yet. looks like none this spring at all. Which is good.


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Alaska school board removes 'The Great Gatsby,' 'I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings' from curriculum ov (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2020 OP
Ban school boards, not books! abqtommy Apr 2020 #1
No, ban conservatives. rickyhall Apr 2020 #22
Guess that means the Holy Bible can never be in the curriculum. ZZenith Apr 2020 #2
Yeah, doesn't it have a story of a daughter planning to sleep with her drunk father? Talitha Apr 2020 #16
Doesn't get much kinkier than that! ZZenith Apr 2020 #23
I'll see you and raise with the Song of Salomon. n/t sarge43 Apr 2020 #29
As a former librarian I had a very notdarkyet Apr 2020 #3
Good one! keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #12
++plus good Kid Berwyn Apr 2020 #33
Sexual references in The Great Gatsby? no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #4
Seriously, I read that book a few times and I must have missed that as well. smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #9
You missed a lot jmowreader Apr 2020 #20
The existence of an affair in a book is not counted as a "sexual reference" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2020 #26
Please don't tell em 'bout other Great Works bubbazero Apr 2020 #5
As a retired high school librarian... Freedomofspeech Apr 2020 #6
I used to have the I read banned books pin that I wore proudly and conspicuously durin niyad Apr 2020 #14
Tell the School Board to read DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #7
The Takers always take more than your money and your life. They take fact, truth, art. ancianita Apr 2020 #8
"Next, cremations. " - The Middle ages. Inquisition. Burned at the stake. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #11
All these cretins are doing is promoting the books Major Nikon Apr 2020 #10
When the Harry Potter books came out, a whack job church in NM had a book burning to rid niyad Apr 2020 #15
We are doing better nowadays hobby10113 Apr 2020 #25
Glad that things are getting better there. I still try to avoid the area if possible. niyad Apr 2020 #31
Every time I hear about this kind of censorship, I think of "Fahrenheit 451". niyad Apr 2020 #13
Have they read Gone With The Wind? Talitha Apr 2020 #17
"The Great Gatsby" is one I've read a few times. Harker Apr 2020 #18
Alaska? PennyK Apr 2020 #19
And just in case you've forgotten... jmowreader Apr 2020 #21
Thank you. One had forgotten, as one tries to forget that awful bunch entirely. niyad Apr 2020 #32
I've never been sure how well kids in the Alaskan bush can relate Warpy Apr 2020 #24
But the point was that Gatsby came from a humble background betsuni Apr 2020 #27
Romantic? She was just another bauble Warpy Apr 2020 #35
Also removed "Invisible Man" "Catch 22" "The Things They Carried." Jim__ Apr 2020 #28
"anti-white messaging". Bet they love plenty of books with anti people of colour messaging Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #30
Alaska is such an outlier in more ways than one. LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #34
Does Oprah know about this? Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #36
Portland Band Portugal The Man offers to send banned books to kids in Alaska mahatmakanejeeves May 2020 #37

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
22. No, ban conservatives.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 12:46 AM
Apr 2020

"A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward." - FDR

Talitha

(6,611 posts)
16. Yeah, doesn't it have a story of a daughter planning to sleep with her drunk father?
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:16 PM
Apr 2020

There's some very troubling stuff in that book.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
3. As a former librarian I had a very
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:29 PM
Apr 2020

Good procedure to remove a book. Number one. Read the whole book. Everyone on the committee to remove must read the book. This stopped a lot of challenges.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. Seriously, I read that book a few times and I must have missed that as well.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:44 PM
Apr 2020

Or maybe my reading comprehension was just really poor.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
20. You missed a lot
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:40 PM
Apr 2020

There are two affairs in The Great Gatsby: Tom with Myrtle, the gas station owner's wife, and Gatsby with Daisy.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,358 posts)
26. The existence of an affair in a book is not counted as a "sexual reference"
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:44 AM
Apr 2020

and neither is a description of a kiss. It's got to be more explicit than that. Well, maybe some fundamentalist Christian might see the acknowledgement of the existence of affairs as a sexual reference, but fundamentalist Muslims don't: a new edition of The Great Gatsby appeared in Iran in 2000: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=X6K2BQAAQBAJ&pg=PA112&lpg=PA112&dq=%22great+gatsby%22+%22iran%22

bubbazero

(296 posts)
5. Please don't tell em 'bout other Great Works
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

Let them think CAT on a HOT TIN ROOF is a children's animal book, and especially HUCK FINN written by Mark Twain is a river navigation book

Freedomofspeech

(4,227 posts)
6. As a retired high school librarian...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

This is absolutely disgusting. I only had a couple challenges in my career and won them both. During Banned Book Week every year, I would display every banned book that I had in my library.

niyad

(113,534 posts)
14. I used to have the I read banned books pin that I wore proudly and conspicuously durin
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

Banned Books Week. Loved getting into it with the idiots. "What qualifies you to decide what I can or cannot read? Have you ever read your bible? What about the sex and violence in that?"

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
7. Tell the School Board to read
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:40 PM
Apr 2020

Animal Farm and 1984 and see what is truly obscene!!!!!! Then they might compare those books to how Washington is being run and ban all those RepubliCONS for obscenity........

ancianita

(36,132 posts)
8. The Takers always take more than your money and your life. They take fact, truth, art.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:43 PM
Apr 2020

First, book burning. Next, cremations.

keithbvadu2

(36,887 posts)
11. "Next, cremations. " - The Middle ages. Inquisition. Burned at the stake.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:58 PM
Apr 2020

"Next, cremations. " - The Middle ages. Inquisition. Burned at the stake.

They didn't even have to wait for you to be dead first.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
10. All these cretins are doing is promoting the books
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:56 PM
Apr 2020

Most, if not all of them are available in electronic format for free.

The problem with school boards are elections are inevitably off cycle in elections where nobody votes except local churches. The result is you get people who still literally want people to live in the Stone Age.

niyad

(113,534 posts)
15. When the Harry Potter books came out, a whack job church in NM had a book burning to rid
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:14 PM
Apr 2020

their community of that satanic filth. I called the pastor to thank him. After all, one actually had to purchase the books in order to have them to burn. Of course, I also called the Fire Marshall and city permits. Oh, dear.

hobby10113

(51 posts)
25. We are doing better nowadays
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:38 AM
Apr 2020

However that moron was from a ruby red part of the state. Eastern New Mexico is pretty much west Texas.

Harker

(14,033 posts)
18. "The Great Gatsby" is one I've read a few times.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:24 PM
Apr 2020

Like all good books, it changes with the reader. If for nothing else, the mention of "the hot whips of panic" and the closet of shirts that could make one cry, make it worthwhile.

I read banned books!

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
24. I've never been sure how well kids in the Alaskan bush can relate
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:33 AM
Apr 2020

to a story about the glittering rich in their east coast enclaves, even though they likely have some experience of seeing rich kids skate on criminal mischief while they and their friends have juvie records for next to nothing. I know when I read it in junior high, the main thing that got me through it was knowing what happened to those assholes in 1929.

Angelou's book is another matter. It's a more universal story because even kids who grow up in milk & cookies families have friends that don't. Yes, the subject matter is horrific, but kids already know about a lot of that stuff by the time they get to high school. I sure as hell did.

One thing about non urban Alaska, people do read during those long, dark winters. This is good advertising for both books and sales should skyrocket. There is nothing like a bunch of prudish, pickle faced book banners to spur interest in good reading.

I'd suggest replacing Gatsby with "The Jungle." Much of that book is relevant today, the working class getting fucked over by bosses, banks, and the legal system as USDA inspection of our meat has been scaled back to nearly nothing. We're not quite at the floor sweepings, cigar butts, and severed limbs in the sausage yet, but just continue the process of the last 20 years and we will be.

betsuni

(25,609 posts)
27. But the point was that Gatsby came from a humble background
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:30 AM
Apr 2020

and sort of sold his soul to become rich by illegal means because of a hopeless dream of happiness through being rich enough to win Daisy. He wasn't an asshole, he was a romantic. A phony, but a phony for a reason. The old money rich are clearly all asshole phonies with no redeeming qualities.

For me the most poignant part was when Gatsby's father shows Nick his son's notebook from when he was young with lists of schedules and goals and the father says, "Jimmy was bound to get ahead. He always had some resolves like this or something. Do you notice what he's got about improving his mind? He was always great for that. He told me I et like a hog once, and I beat him for it." But the only way Gatsby could get ahead was by criminal activity.

I grew up in a small town across the country from the glittering rich in their east coast enclaves and made self-improvement lists in my late teens, wanted to be sophisticated and worldly. To like jazz, know about French food and wines, foreign languages, play tennis and be sporty, collected reading lists like Columbia University's Great Books, lists of foreign films to see. Everything except for the reading lists were a failure (a couple of years ago I finally had to throw out my ancient copy of Adler's "How to Read a Book" and its reading list.) Gave up trying to be sophisticated. I could never be Gatsby. This is relatable for some.

Warpy

(111,332 posts)
35. Romantic? She was just another bauble
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:16 PM
Apr 2020

He didn't care who she was, he just wanted to own what she was.

Kids so far removed from that kind of life aren't going to relate to it. It's better suited to aspirational suburbia.

Then again, my mother came from serious money (mostly gone in the Depression, thank any deity that claims credit) and I did grow up speaking the language. I just rejected it utterly. That likely colored my own perception of the book, although its premise that the rich are different is spot on.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
28. Also removed "Invisible Man" "Catch 22" "The Things They Carried."
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:31 AM
Apr 2020

From the article cited in the Op"

According to CNN, the Matanuska-Susitna Borough School Board voted last week to axe those books and three others –Ralph Ellison’s “Invisible Man,” Joseph Heller’s "Catch-22" and Tim O'Brien’s “The Things They Carried” – from the reading list for the local district’s High School English Elective Curriculum.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,034 posts)
30. "anti-white messaging". Bet they love plenty of books with anti people of colour messaging
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:15 AM
Apr 2020

It would be good to highlight those and decimate their lily-white reading list.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
34. Alaska is such an outlier in more ways than one.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:19 PM
Apr 2020

Many Alaskans live there, and move to live there, because........Freedom! From big gob'mint telling them what to do. But then can flip 180 with that opinion if its about censoring books that might taint their right wing sensibilities. Not to mention the blatant hypocrisy of Republicans getting their shorts in a knot over this writing while at the same time lavishing praise on a President who acts and talks the way he does in the present day.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,593 posts)
37. Portland Band Portugal The Man offers to send banned books to kids in Alaska
Wed May 6, 2020, 06:52 AM
May 2020
UnhingedMidnightTantrumHat Retweeted

Remember the Alaska school board that banned Catch-22, The Great Gatsby, and other books from the curriculum? The band Portugal the Man is offering to send the books to any student in the district who wants to read them.



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Portland band Portugal The Man offers to send banned books to kids in Alaska

Updated May 04, 11:33 AM; Posted May 04, 11:23 AM

By Lizzy Acker | The Oregonian/OregonLive

The band Portugal The Man is claimed by two places: Portland, Oregon, where they live now, and Wasilla, Alaska, where several of the members are from.

Wasilla, once most famous as the home of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, is home to Wasilla High School, where the band formed in 2001 as two students started playing music together.

Wasilla is part of the Matanuska-Susitna Borough and it is there, according to Alaska’s KTOO News, that the Matanuska-Susitna Borough School District School Board voted to ban several books from the district’s curriculum.

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The school board is set to meet again Wednesday and review the decision. Meanwhile, Portugal The Man is offering to send the books to any student in the district who wants to read them.

They just need to email the band at sticksandstones@portugaltheman.com.

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