Does that even make sense?

Because doing so would be a crime.

And to be blunt, even if it did our position must be adamant as old iron it did not, and that must never waver. The time for this sort of crap is over. They cannot ruin our leaders without our help, and we need to get this through our collective heads. Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....

Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.

Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.

If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

Speculation about the character of the Commander has no place in a fight for dear life.

This is no time for Phony Rhetoric
this is no time for Political Speech
This is the time, a time for Action
because the future's Within Reach
-Lou Reed, There Is No Time

Winning in this instance is more important than the truth, whatever that may be.

It would be believable if he paid her 130k to keep quiet about it.

i had to look it up, it sounded like you were saying that about Biden.

I think Biden would've been more convincing by making her statement more personal, like "I did not assault Ms. Reade."

At least Biden is, err, gonna be more consistent as opposed to Reade, who appears to be nothing more than an opportunist. As much as I am willing to acknowledge Reade might have been touched in a way she didn't like, based on Biden's past similar incidents, the problem is that Reade simply lacks credibility and has misrepresented facts at times (like her description of her mom's supposed call to Larry King Live).

Assuming he consulted with his legal counsel and advisors, he should have entered that interview confident he was portraying his actions to the most honest level of his knowledge, enough to say "I did not do it."

End of story.

nit picking. Like searching for some implication of guilt, or at least, deflection, that allows the original false charge to seem... possibly plausible?

NEVER is adamant, and has passion. "I did not do that" is milquetoast. It only has passion if you are SCREAMING IT. And you know THAT would be given the Dean scream treatment.

This is how we get played. There is no longer time for ambiguity. We must back Biden, be strong, firm, and back it up with outrage and indignation.

We must take no prisoners. You KNOW they won't.

I understand the tactic, but it's not working for you.

I disagree with that myself. I think he is great. I had a couple of the famous hugs...nothing sexual about them. Tara Reade is a liar and her story falls apart more and more on a daily basis. Saying unequivocally that it never happened is just fine.

"I did not assault Ms. Reade." If he said the later, that leaves wiggle room for everyone to decipher whether he touched her or not; whether the touching was an assault or not; whether the touching was consensual or not; the degree of touching, how long, was it a nice touch or a rough touch, etc, etc. When Biden says "it never happened".... That leaves no wiggle room. I trust Biden's word over Reade's until there is substantial proof otherwise. ALL women are capable of going after what they want, when they see something that they want, and then many women have second thoughts when it didn't turn out the way that they had hoped it would. When a woman makes a pass at a man, or the man makes a pass at her, and then after it's over it didn't turn out how she thought it would, she may conclude that she was used; what our Mothers, Grandmothers warned us about; and they realize that they were just another Wham, Bam, thank you Maam; they feel used and then they're angry because they feel that they've been used, even if it was consensual. And the more they think about it, the angrier they become, and the angrier they become, the more they feel used and then they want to turn something that was originally consensual into something that's a crime.

"It never happened" has the most full force of denial, because "it" refers to the incident talked about in the news, and "never happened" says in two words that Biden didn't do what they were accusing him of doing.

Over 20 years ago, Bill Clinton sunk himself into impeachment (thankfully an acquittal) by saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!"

I'd find it more believable if she'd said she was too embarrassed or intimidated to file a complaint (I have some personal experience with this issue). But she says she filed one, didn't get a copy of it. Biden says--have at it, anything like that would be in the National Archives. Would a guilty man hand you a road map?

So the rethugs are already running ads that Joe is a sexual predator. If they hadn't paid this woman, they would have paid someone else to make a claim. Standard rethug playbook. Serial abusers leave a trail of the abused. There are no other claims against Biden. Let's make an ad featuring all of the women who have accused trump.

Screw Scarborough clamoring that every woman should be believed no matter what--that she would have no reason to lie. I'm betting she has a six-figure reason to lie.

If Dems jump on this bandwagon, a'la Kristen Gillibrand, then we are doomed to another 4 years of trump.

who thinks she wears the mantle of women's empowerment. There is so much information that debunks this woman's accusation, not the least of which is a scene in her father's book that is creepily like her accusation. She needs help.

Not sure if he needs to do anymore. I think that's it and now just let it go and refer any further questions to this interview.