Mississippi governor blames 'liberal media' for not linking coronavirus surge to protests
Source: The Hill
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves (R) on Monday accused the "liberal media" of blaming increasing coronavirus cases on family gatherings rather than protests, despite data indicating no spikes in the cities that saw the largest demonstrations.
Liberal media is trying to claim the increase of Coronavirus was just caused by family BBQs on Memorial Day, Reeves tweeted. They completely ignore the fact that our uptick (and other states) began within days of massive protests all overwhich they celebrated.
While coronavirus numbers nationwide have skyrocketed in recent weeks, cases have not spiked in the cities that saw the biggest protests after the police killing of George Floyd, including Minneapolis, New York and Washington, D.C. While all 50 states have seen protests, in settings ranging from small towns to major cities, cases are currently surging in a group of Southern and Western states in particular, including California, Oklahoma, Texas, Arizona and Florida.
Public health officials say no link has emerged between protests and coronavirus outbreaks and have blamed the reopening of indoor venues particularly bars and socializing by young people. Erika Lautenbach, director of the Whatcom County Health Department in Washington state, told NPR in late June that officials have not been able to connect any cases to a recent rally in the county seat of Bellingham, attributing the lack of transmission to the use of face masks.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/506042-mississippi-governor-blames-liberal-media-for-not-linking-protests-to
The Mouth
(3,164 posts)masked up
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Majority of the protesters wore mask, washed hands and had hand sanitizers on them. t-rump's protesters - majority did not wear mask.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)I thought crowded indoor activities were far more risky then outdoor activities?
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)droidamus2
(1,699 posts)Since a lot of the big city and probably many of the smaller ones have Democratic mayors they are just using these kind of statements to deflect from the Republican governors ineptness in handling the pandemic. Hopefully people siee through the lies.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)A lot of us are getting sick of their take, take, take.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,034 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts)They were all out in their maskless glory for Mike Pence.
LuvNewcastle
(16,855 posts)I don't think we've had any large protests here at all. We've been having some of our biggest Covid numbers, though. Probably has mostly to do with churches, bars, family gatherings, as you say.
Laffy Kat
(16,386 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,034 posts)... because it has a bit of a libertarian orientation coming down from Steve Forbes, at least in the past. Dunno what role he has these days.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,034 posts)The timing clearly fits with the premature re-openings around the country.
This kind of after-the-fact rationalization of failed decisions by gas-lighting the causes to direct attention away from the truth HAS GOT TO STOP!
Igel
(35,350 posts)Average time to onset of symptoms is around 4.5 days. Add in a day to say, "Shit, I'm sick ..." and get one's sorry ass to the COVID-testing site and get the swab shoved through your nose.
Millions die from anti-lockdown protests and spring break. But healing descends from BLM protests.
It's why research reproducibility and social utility of research are so absolutely inversely related.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,034 posts)Suppose a state is finding say a steady rate of about 400 new cases a day when things are prematurely opened up. That will mean some days are getting 500 and some 300. And those are the ones detected. There may be 5 to 10 times that many asymptomatically infected each day, 300 x 5 = 1500, 500 x 10 = 5000, so 1500 to 5000 asymptomatic new cases each day, 300-500 detected.
Now the opening up causes a series of hot spot breakouts. There might be say 500 new infections on the first day, over and above the level bubbling around in the pot from before. But they won't be detectable until 5-7 days later. And only 10-20% will be detected. So 50 to 100 might be detected. If you have a low day, even 100 won't be noticed (300 + 100 = 400). And it would take a high day and a high detection (500 + 100 = 600) for something to poke up above the noisy statistical floor, which is unlikely, but would probably happen within a few days more or less. So after say 8-10 days you might get a slight uptick where a few people notice and say "is that an uptick I'm seeing or just an extra strong day?"
But those new cases are also infecting new cases, and the new little outbreaks might be in pockets that were hardly infected or not previously infected. So think of it as a doubling time of 7 days in the new hot spots.
So after 7 days the initial spreading rate of 500 extra new detected infections a day is now 1000 extra new ones a day (5000 to 10,000 total including asymptomatic). But they won't be detected until 5-7 days later, hence 12 days or so after the premature re-opening when the average new case load detected each day will be running about 1000 per day and climbing. So in two weeks, a bunch of people will be getting alarmed. But most others won't be paying attention or won't figure it out or won't care.
It will take a couple weeks more for a Republican governor to become sufficiently alarmed to actually say something in public and a couple more weeks after that for them to move into action and go back a bit on openings. By that time (6 weeks later) the state might be finding 4,000 new cases a day and things are out of control.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,034 posts)Grokenstein
(5,727 posts)exists only to promote Republicksum bullshit.
Vote 'em out, every one of them.
IronLionZion
(45,516 posts)because liberals are diabolical like that. Why did liberals prevent increased cases in Washington DC, NYC, Minneapolis, and other Northern liberal cities? Is it because we hate the rural South so much?
Eugene
(61,939 posts)Source: Associated Press
By LEAH WILLINGHAM
July 6, 2020
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) A Mississippi Senate leader and a protest organizer are speaking out against Republican Gov. Tate Reevess tweet Sunday that said the liberal media is ignoring new coronavirus cases that could have been caused by protests and blaming the states recent surge on holiday barbeque parties.
Youre being messy, loud, and wrong. per usual. ... if you want to have dialogue, use it, tweeted Maisie Brown, an 18-year-old from Jackson who helped organize a protest that drew thousands to the capital in June after the killing of George Floyd. this isnt the time to be divisive & demonize people who got out to change. we were masked! up! wheres yours?
Mississippi Senate Minority Leader Derrick T. Simmons of Greenville said he doesnt think the governor or anyone else can for certain blame the increased number of COVID-19 cases on protests around the nation or in Mississippi. New cases can also be caused by people returning to work, the reopening of the economy and increased testing, Simmons wrote in a statement.
I trust media professionals with their assessments since they are trained to be factual and wont dare to condemn them for doing the tough job and informing the American people with facts, Simmons said.
Reevess tweet came a few days after a press conference where State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs said there was no evidence of any outbreaks in Mississipi caused by protests. No states where there have been major protests have reported an uptick in cases caused by protests.
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Read more: https://apnews.com/11fd7ee4936524294109a1a7b0897920
RVN VET71
(2,697 posts). . .but when they do, they choose the morons like Tate Reeves.
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)National Bureau of Economic Research did an analysis that showed the protests don't correlate to the surge in cases.
Reeves is just a know-nothing punk!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1014&pid=2531028
Igel
(35,350 posts)And neither peer reviewed nor replicated.
Not gold standard.
Not silver standard.
Pushing tin standard.
Meanwhile even blue-state governors are having to admit that their health agencies are saying that protests of a BLM nature have contributed.
That, of course, means neither solely responsible nor completely irrelevant, tough for all-or-nothing analyses.
ProfessorGAC
(65,159 posts)But, if the devil's advocate thing works for you, have at it.
Taking a contrary position countering things I didn't say, however, seems a waste of energy.
I never said it was the ultimate word.
Your counter is actually the reason Reeve's should have shut up.
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winstars
(4,220 posts)as reflected in their current new case count.
Dumb as a rock...
JI7
(89,262 posts)pfitz59
(10,389 posts)perhaps he should blame GOD
truthisfreedom
(23,152 posts)Outdoor protesting is relatively safe, as has been proven again and again.
robbob
(3,538 posts)Was it protests of family BBQs over the Memorial Day weekend? Completely ignoring the jam packed bars and beaches filled with mask-less idiots. Another ridiculous straw man argument.