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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,594 posts) Mon Jul 6, 2020, 05:55 PM Jul 2020

ICE Says Foreign Students Can't Attend Online-Only College This Fall, Despite Pandemic

Source: Forbes

BREAKING 17,774 views Jul 6, 2020, 04:19pm EDT
ICE Says Foreign Students Can't Attend Online-Only College This Fall, Despite Pandemic

Alison Durkee Forbes Staff
Business

TOPLINE U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced Monday that international students "may not take a full online course load and remain in the United States" during the fall 2020 semester, as schools and universities across the country consider how to reopen amid the coronavirus pandemic.

International students on nonimmigrant F-1 and M-1 visas cannot remain in the U.S. or legally enter the U.S. if their studies are entirely online, and ICE recommended in a press release that students whose schools are online-only should "[transfer] to a school with in-person instruction to remain in lawful status."

Students at schools offering a hybrid of in-person and online learning will be permitted to take some online courses and remain in the country, though the school must certify "that the student is not taking an entirely online course load this semester."

The rule will also apply to students whose course loads change mid-semester, with ICE noting that students who change course selections or are required to switch to online-only learning must notify the agency within 10 days.

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Read more: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/07/06/ice-says-foreign-students-cant-attend-online-only-college-this-fall-despite-pandemic/#66eedbdd5ee1

DystopianHat Retweeted

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This is bad. ICE just told students here on student visas that if their school is going online-only this fall, the students must depart the United States and cannot remain through the fall semester. https://ice.gov/news/releases/sevp-modifies-temporary-exemptions-nonimmigrant-students-taking-online-courses-during

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Harvard is going all online this fall.

Harvard: "All course instruction for the 2020-21 academic year will be delivered online"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213707681

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ICE says foreign students can't take online-only classes in the fall
BY CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ

JULY 6, 2020 / 5:10 PM / CBS NEWS

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-foreign-students-online-only-classes/

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ICE Says Foreign Students Can't Attend Online-Only College This Fall, Despite Pandemic (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 OP

ABOLISH ICE jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #1

+1 K&R - this must be one of the priorities for the Biden administration & new USAG onetexan Jul 2020 #7

Agreed a thousand percent. I can't believe anybody thought it would be a good idea in the first jorgevlorgan Jul 2020 #9

WTF? This is just evil. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #2

Not quite FBaggins Jul 2020 #3

This rule has been around since 9/11 Abnredleg Jul 2020 #4

I've family who were studying abroad who had to come back when their uppityperson Jul 2020 #10

Make people of color take the risk... B Stieg Jul 2020 #5

exactly. Wonder if it applies to students from Eastern Europe. Me thinks not. onetexan Jul 2020 #8

Great way to damage the US university brand. Canada in 2019 was doing roaring business in foreign Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #6

At this point.... BGBD Jul 2020 #11

jorgevlorgan

(8,327 posts)

1. ABOLISH ICE

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 05:57 PM

Jul 2020

onetexan

(13,057 posts)

7. +1 K&R - this must be one of the priorities for the Biden administration & new USAG

Reply to jorgevlorgan (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:30 PM

Jul 2020

This is abominable and a blatant abuse of power. I'm sure it's got its roots from the twisted mind of Stephen Miller or another of the Idiot's RW racist enabler.

jorgevlorgan

(8,327 posts)

9. Agreed a thousand percent. I can't believe anybody thought it would be a good idea in the first

Reply to onetexan (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:43 PM

Jul 2020

place.

SunSeeker

(51,664 posts)

2. WTF? This is just evil.

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:01 PM

Jul 2020

FBaggins

(26,757 posts)

3. Not quite

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:01 PM

Jul 2020

I would interpret this as saying that they CAN attend an online-only school... but that it wouldn't justify staying in the country.

Probably because you don't have to be in the country to attend online.

Abnredleg

(670 posts)

4. This rule has been around since 9/11

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:02 PM

Jul 2020

All colleges have to know where their foreign students are at all times, and they can’t do that if they are not on campus. Hopefully a compromise can be worked out.

uppityperson

(115,678 posts)

10. I've family who were studying abroad who had to come back when their

Reply to Abnredleg (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 08:00 PM

Jul 2020

schools went online. It's a shame but not unusual.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)

5. Make people of color take the risk...

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:04 PM

Jul 2020

because they're not worth anything.
Same racist message.

onetexan

(13,057 posts)

8. exactly. Wonder if it applies to students from Eastern Europe. Me thinks not.

Reply to B Stieg (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:31 PM

Jul 2020

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,034 posts)

6. Great way to damage the US university brand. Canada in 2019 was doing roaring business in foreign

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 06:27 PM

Jul 2020

... educating foreign students at universities and colleges.

When things settle out, I think Canada may increase market share.

BGBD

(3,282 posts)

11. At this point....

Reply to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 08:46 PM

Jul 2020

people should be tanking ICE for helping them escape. Most of us aren't allowed to leave the country because nobody in the world is willing to take us anymore.

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