He is a complete garbage person in and out.

College entrance was far more limited until open admissions in the early 70s.

refute Drumpf's claim? Or did Drumpf pay him off?

Does anyone have a bulletin from the graduation ceremony? Usually the summa cum laude's are listed. A reporter could call down the list (of course the bulletin itself would prove the point).

that at this point!)

at the ime.

I recall people posting images of it during the campaign. A separate section of names were listed as graduating with honors. His name was not among them. His name was in the other, larger section of graduates. He could not possibly have been at the top of his class if anyone graduated with honors and he did not. Additionally, by having a whole section of people who graduated with honors that program shows he wasn't even close.

From Philly Mag:

Interesting that someone with the "highest grades possible" would not receive some honor. What a lying POS he is.

...the highest grades possible for someone of his limited intellect- Cs and Ds probably.

and generous donors get.

Dump's the name, fraud's the game.

Link to tweet

The terms are cum laude, summa cum laude, and magna cum laude. Trump is not in the list of those honors graduates, which means he was not first in his class. His name is merely in the list of graduates—no honors.

Trump lies about everything, even those things that are easily proven to be lies. He knows his rabid right-wing supporters aren’t smart enough to look this up for themselves. They all know he lies, but they worship him anyway.

They knew he didn't have what it takes, and he knew they knew that. Explains a lot.

"He knew they knew". What a tortured gloop of goop he is.

ID check in the exam room was a joke. The way most people who did this got caught was through the signature match - most high schoolers didn't understand that a signature match would be applied, especially if your score went up by more than expected for a second test, or was exceptionally high in the first place. I know three people who paid to have the SAT taken for them, and they all were disqualified for signature match - this was 1990-1992.

I'd expect it was even easier and more common in the mid-to-late 1960s, especially with the draft and Vietnam. Understand that having somebody take SATs for you is another form of draft evasion - if he could not have gotten into Fordham (not a particularly high bar), he might have been out everywhere, and there goes his draft exemption.

who was a friend of his older brother, Fred Jr.

Trump initially was enrolled in Fordham University in the Bronx.

things. Absolutely no one (even his base) will believe any denials he will spew forth.

Donny never pays his bills. maybe he conned some one else to pay.

And Fred Sr did have a reputation for actually paying up -- when it came to bailing out his idiot son.

Was worth the cost to Freddy to cover up the image his son is a freakin idiot. Like Donald, Fred was looking out for his own benefit. I hate em all, but you know when it all gets exposed, and even GOP cuts ties, Baron is gonna have a lot of hell to pay, for em all.

Were there even SATs in 1963?

The original idea behind was, as I understand, to give students (meaning males) who didn't already attend an East Coast prep school with a direct line to admissions, a chance to get into elite schools.

donations.

Why do anything if you can get a stunt man for the job?

It was HIM!! I know it for a fact since he EARNED a "Bowling Participation Trophy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"To hedge his bets he enlisted Joe Shapiro, a smart kid with a reputation for being a good test taker, to take his SATs for him," Mary Trump wrote. "That was much easier to pull off in the days before photo IDs and computerized records."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/07/mary-trump-tell-all-book-depicts-president-inept-habitual-liar/5390286002/

Got someone to take his SAT’s?
Maybe. Would not surprise me.

But his SAT scores would have gone to Fordham, not Wharton.

Trump transferred from Fordham (Fordham: “Whew!) to Wharton. His transcript records would include his SAT scores from his last year in high school. Pretty sure Wharton, or any other school, would not ask him to retake them on a transfer.

doesn't cut it with me. I want to see the diploma, the long form diploma.

And then I want a very public cancellation of President Scumbag's college degree.

Thank you, Mary Trump.

smarter than doing it yourself.
I mean they always happen on a Saturday, at least back in my day, why waste a round of golf by sitting in an exam room?

He cheated throughout college too, no doubt.

so if that is the case then his diploma's from everything is/ are just as worthless has he is...............

will he confirm he story? Oh, pleasepleasepleaseplease....

... his resignation in which he will admit that he can barely read, and as a disabled learner, should not be prosecuted for his crimes.

ASSHOLES.

But unfortunately that seems to be a plus with some people.

“Shit I never really thought about, but if I did... would just assume it to be true based on mountains if circumstantial evidence.”

i.e. A,B,C,D,E,D,C,B,A...

Whether there was any truth to that, I don't know.

But at least he sat down and took it.

If one habitually cheats in one aspect of his or her life, it tends to bleed over into other parts. Speaking as a former member of my high school golf team, I had occasion to witness this sort of cheating behavior from other players, whether it was moving their ball from the rough into the fairway when they thought no one was looking, taking multiple “mulligans” (some even on the fairway as well as off the tee), or picking up their golf ball from the green, 13 feet away from the cup, and calling it a “gimme.” To fellow teammates (or even other members of a friendly foursome), watching someone repeatedly indulge in these sorts of unfair advantages tends to breed contempt on the part of ones fellows.

According to several high-profile celebrity golfers who have had the “pleasure” of golfing with President Trump, he regularly employs each of these shady tactics (as well as countless others), to enhance his score, and thereby “beat” (at all costs) his opponents.

Cheat at golf, cheat on your SAT’s. Cheat in business, cheat on your wives. Duplicity can be a powerful tool (or should I say “weapon”?) in the hands of a sociopath like “The Donald.” But it never works forever. Eventually, the bill comes due. Prepare to pay up, Donny Boy.

...then he no doubt did some unscrupulous things during his classes.