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brooklynite

(94,624 posts)
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:31 PM Jul 2020

FDA warns against using two dozen hand sanitizers that could contain toxic wood alcohol

Source: CNN

The Food and Drug Administration has added more hand sanitizers to its growing list of products that contain wood alcohol, which is toxic if absorbed through the skin.

More than two dozen various hand sanitizers sold by the Mexico-based company 4E Global -- many carrying the Blumen label -- contain high levels of methanol, or wood alcohol, and have been recommended for recall.

The FDA said it has seen an increase in products containing ethanol, also known as ethyl alcohol, that tested positive for potentially poisonous methanol contamination -- which can be life-threatening if ingested.

States have also reported cases of blindness, hospitalizations and deaths in adults and children after drinking hand sanitizer products tainted with methanol, the agency said.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/09/health/hand-sanitizer-methanol-fda-trnd/index.html

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FDA warns against using two dozen hand sanitizers that could contain toxic wood alcohol (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2020 OP
Do NOT buy this stuff in your local schlock shop or no name dollar store... TreasonousBastard Jul 2020 #1
Also, don't drink it. dchill Jul 2020 #2
Hand Sanitizer is not a beverage! forgotmylogin Jul 2020 #6
I just bought a quart of 70% ethanol. That's some serious vodka, but... TreasonousBastard Jul 2020 #10
Thanks for posting this. jalan48 Jul 2020 #3
Here's what all my hand sanitizers say: zentrum Jul 2020 #4
List is here: LeftInTX Jul 2020 #5
I have that exact green bottle of "Assured" on the shelf behind me. forgotmylogin Jul 2020 #7
If You Have Any Of These... ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #8
I was going to post 'how likely is it that something that evaporates as fast as methanol mr_lebowski Jul 2020 #11
So, You're Telling Me... ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #12
Hmmm my big cheapo jumbo size of HS just says "alcohol" 80% - also says made in the USA. Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #9
I Wouldn't ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #13

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. Do NOT buy this stuff in your local schlock shop or no name dollar store...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jul 2020

They often enough get it from no-name vans that dig it out of dumpsters.

Walmart and Walgreens may not be good guys, but they do try to check and test merchandise.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. I just bought a quart of 70% ethanol. That's some serious vodka, but...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 03:17 PM
Jul 2020

not listed on the ingredients is some shit they throw in to make you throw up.

Many with DT's have tried it in a pinch, but they regretted it.

"Hand sanitizer" was on the same shelf at twice the price with a little aloe in it. And it really stinks up the place.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
4. Here's what all my hand sanitizers say:
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jul 2020

"Made in the USA with US and foreign components"

Variety of brands say this.

It's alarming, because we know corporation use weasel words like this all the time, and the product is hardly made in the USA at all.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
7. I have that exact green bottle of "Assured" on the shelf behind me.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jul 2020

I'm okay though! I haven't yet tried to add it to an aperitif!

I didn't order it, I think my Dad passed it along to me.

Perhaps I'll just leave it here as a deadly trap for convenience of any right-wingers who happen along and wish to internally cleanse according to the *president's instruction.

ProfessorGAC

(65,085 posts)
8. If You Have Any Of These...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jul 2020

...don't throw them out.
They're not unsafe, given you don't drink them. (Which was the case in early reporting on this.)
Some products made in Mexico actually used methanol as the active agent. That's not allowed in the US.
The FDA & EPA registrations (because they make a health claim) require ethanol or isopropanol as the active ingredient in the formula. Substitutions are not allowed.
However,...
Ethanol as the active ingredient can be provided by a denatured version called SDA 3A. This is 95% ethanol, with 5% methanol added to make it non potable.
The personal care industries abandoned SDA 3A about 25 years ago, in favor of SDA 40B. 40B has no methanol. It has a tiny bit of tertiary butanol, which is an emetic, and denatonium (tradename bitrex) which is one of the most bitter substances on earth. (A perceptible bitterness at 10 parts per billion)
Personal care products had likely, around 1000 ppm of methanol back then. 1,000 ppm was considered WAY too high from a marketing stand point. And regulations would have required labeling as poison. So, they made the switch to a much more benign version.
I'd recommend only buying major label (Germ-X or Purel). But, if you have one of these, they're relatively safe, used as directed.
Since methanol evaporates even more quickly than ethanol, absorption into the skin is very minimal.
The body can handle tiny amounts of methanol, but not the amount one would get by ingesting a products that's 79% methanol.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. I was going to post 'how likely is it that something that evaporates as fast as methanol
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jul 2020

Is going to get into your system in a volume high enough to make you sick when it's not concentrated and only applied to your skin? Methanol isn't, like, curare or something.'

And then say I wouldn't throw it out if I had some.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
9. Hmmm my big cheapo jumbo size of HS just says "alcohol" 80% - also says made in the USA.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 02:24 PM
Jul 2020

Guess Ill throw it out.... even if it has a nice USA flag on it, who's to say where the inggredients came from or what it really is... It was like $8 for about a half a gallon.

ProfessorGAC

(65,085 posts)
13. I Wouldn't
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jul 2020

It's likely isopropanol.
US companies are not allowed to use methanol in hand sanitizer.
The registration formulary grants health claims based only on ethanol or isopropanol.
Not just company fines, but criminal prosecution is pursuable under the regulations.
Methanol is not that much cheaper than isopropanol to risk fines & jail time.
Your product is likely quite safe to use.
And, throwing out something with that level of alcohol means you're discarding a flammable.
You could pour it down the drain (with LOTS of chasing water), but you'd be pouring $8 down the drain.

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