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Bozita

(26,955 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:11 PM Oct 2012

Anti-tax crusader (Grover) Norquist to join fight against new U.S.-Canada bridge

Source: Detroit News

October 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Anti-tax crusader Norquist to join fight against new U.S.-Canada bridge
By Chad Livengood
Detroit News Lansing Bureau


Lansing — Ambassador Bridge owner Manuel "Matty" Moroun has found an ally in one of the nation's leading crusaders against taxes and government spending in his own quest to stop construction of a publicly-owned bridge to Canada.

On Thursday, Americans for Tax Reform founder Grover Norquist is expected to formally endorse Moroun's Proposal 6 constitutional amendment requiring statewide votes for new international bridges and tunnels.

The Moroun-funded The People Should Decide campaign committee is asking for a "yes" vote in the Nov. 6 election on Proposal 6 as an effort to derail the New International Trade Crossing bridge project Gov. Rick Snyder has been pursuing. Canada has pledged to cover Michigan's $550 million share of the cost of a $3.5 billion span from Windsor to southwest Detroit, as well as plazas and roads connecting Ontario highways with Interstate 75.

Under an agreement Snyder and Canadian officials signed in June, Michigan's share of the construction costs would be recouped through tolls collected by an international authority set up to run the new span across the Detroit River.



Read more: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121003/POLITICS01/210030435#ixzz28GhrEXkK



Looks like Grover is building new bridges ... to another billionaire!
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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
1. I don't get it
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:18 PM
Oct 2012

Is Norquist objecting for any political grounds or philosophical grounds?

He is such a creep - just had to write that.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
4. Grover is an advocate of private ownership of public infrastructure and this is the result.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:24 PM
Oct 2012

Private profit trumps public need. I would think the authority for permitting international bridge resides with the federal government.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
7. The corporatist state Grover wants won't have any public property. All privately owned by cronies.
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:35 PM
Oct 2012

The name of the act is an oxymoron, as the people will not be informed of the private details. It will be NYOB as soon as it's passed. And they will call this lowering taxes, but the toll is going to be a tax. But it will be paid to private companies. And the increase in cost will keep those without enough money from using it.

We have just had a state owned bridge that was turned into a toll, and the cost is so high working people are being forced to drive many more miles to use another one to cross a large lake. The expensive neighborhood they formerly drove through on the state highway wanted it that way, didn't want people driving there.

But the roads and bridge were built with tax payer money. The state is supposed to get the toll for the bridge. Other road projects are being stopped by Republicans unless they are tolls. Much of what is public, sends money into private hands through levies and sales taxes, like sports stadium.

Presumably in the public good, but we've had some that the public specifically rejected that got ramrodded through for the benefit of the private owners in several instances.

His alleged grounds are what they have always been, to reduce the size of government to the size it can be drowned in a bathtub. At the same time the plutocrats will no longer be pestered by the people. The government represents the people against the plutocracy.

They want that barrier taken away to get control among their friends. When the government is eliminated, all sense of fair play and equality will be erased. They can discriminate and charge whatever they want. They do not represent those who need infrastructure for upward mobility. The GOP does not want the lower groups to move out of their position of subservience, as it's good for their business model.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
11. He's been doing this for years
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:43 PM
Oct 2012

If I were in charge of the FBI, Grover would be getting investigated...at least covertly! I can't but help to think that what he and AQ wants are one and the same...the destruction of the US!

And he is known to have contacts in the Arab world...at least through his wife...who knows exactly what connections Grover has and with who?

Just a theory, but when someone as obsessed with bringing down the US government as Grover seems to be...and the endless supply of money that he's able to throw at Republican candidates every election cycle...you have to wonder!!!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
3. We're gonna build a bridge?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 04:20 PM
Oct 2012

I hadn't heard. I think that's a cool thing - building something new for a change. It must be good if Grover's against.

Wednesdays

(17,412 posts)
9. A bridge to southwest Detroit?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:08 PM
Oct 2012

I think they meant a bridge to southeast Detroit. A bridge to southwest Detroit would be an awfully long bridge indeed.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
10. According to the gov's office, the deal on the new Canadian bridge is a 'done deal' and prop 6's
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 05:34 PM
Oct 2012

outcome will not impact THAT project one iota. The agreement was 'signed and sealed' back with the Canadian gov't back in June.

 

magic59

(429 posts)
12. Its about the only smart thing the repub Governor did
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 08:30 PM
Oct 2012

was back the new bridge. The only guy against it, Matty, owns the only bridge into East MI. He will lose millions if the new bridge is built. Now, there is long traffic jams on his bridge. A new bridge is needed.

hockeynut57

(230 posts)
13. i totally agree with not building the bridge
Thu Oct 4, 2012, 02:51 PM
Oct 2012

being an avid hockey player, i'm sick and tired of them damned canucks driving down here. they are really making me look bad on the ice

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
14. The AFT (union) opposes the bridge
Fri Oct 5, 2012, 09:08 PM
Oct 2012

Yes, norquist is an ass and he opposes it.
But the governor is also an ass and he supports it.

AFT's position on all the MI ballot proposals: http://aftmichigan.org/takeaction/endorsements.html

I figure if Rick Snyder's for it, it's not for the public good; it's so his cronies can profit off it. I will be voting against it.

The coalition of unions has not taken a stand on it: http://www.mlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/09/unions_issue_groups_team_up_fo.html

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